From: Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>
To: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
"Russell King - ARM Linux" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
"Marc Kleine-Budde" <m.kleine-budde@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: still nfs problems [Was: Linux 2.6.37-rc8]
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:01:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D2487CA.5040501@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1294239193.3014.9.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>
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On 01/05/2011 03:53 PM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 14:40 +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
>> Hi Russell,
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 11:27:01AM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 12:05:17PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
>>>> Hello Trond,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 09:40:14AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 07:22:38PM -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>>>>>> The question is whether this is something happening on the server or the
>>>>>> client. Does an older client kernel boot without any trouble?
>>>>> I will set up a boot test with 2.6.37 (for statistics) and 2.6.36 to
>>>>> compare with. If you don't consider .36 to be old enough let me now.
>>>>> Once the setup is done it should be easy to test .35 (say), too.
>>>>>
>>>> Marc (cc'd) saw similar[1] problems with .37, when using .36.2 the
>>>> problems didn't occur. This was more reliable to trigger and he was so
>>>> kind to bisect the problem.
>>>>
>>>> When testing v2.6.36-rc3-51-gafa8ccc init hanged.
>>>> (babddc72a9468884ce1a23db3c3d54b0afa299f0 is the first bad commit with
>>>> this hang.) Commit 56e4ebf877b6043c289bda32a5a7385b80c17dee makes the
>>>> "init hangs" problem the "fileid changed on tab" problem.
>>>>
>>>> I could only reproduce that on armv5 machines (imx27, imx28 and at91)
>>>> but not on armv6 (imx35).
>>>
>>> FYI, I've seen the "fileid changed" problem, and it looked like a 32-bit
>>> truncation of the fileid. It occurred several times on successive
>>> reboots, so I tried to capture a tcpdump trace off the server (Linux
>>> 2.6.23-rc8-ga64314e6 - its ancient because I've had issues with buggy
>>> IDE drivers trying to move it forward.) However, for the last couple
>>> of weeks I've been unable to reproduce it.
>>>
>>> The client was based on 2.6.37-rc6.
>>>
>>> The "fileid changed" messages popped up after mounting an export with
>>> 'nolock,intr,rsize=4096,soft', and then trying to use bash completion
>>> and 'ls' in a few subdirectories - and entries were missing from the
>>> directory lists without 'ls' reporting any errors (which I think is bad
>>> behaviour in itself.)
>> There was a bug in at least -rc5[1] that was considered already fixed in
>> -rc4[2]. The later announcements didn't mention it anymore.
>>
>>> I don't know why it's stopped producing the errors, although once it
>>> went I never investigated it any further (was far too busy trying to
>>> get AMBA DMA support working.)
>> It seems it was fixed for most users though. Trond?
>
> As I said, I can't reproduce it.
>
> I'm seeing a lot of mention of ARM above. Is anyone seeing this bug on
> x86, or does it appear to be architecture-specific?
It _seems_ to be ARMv5 specific[1]. Uwe did some tests and figured out
that disabling dcache on ARMv5 "fixes" the problem, but
CONFIG_CPU_DCACHE_WRITETHROUGH isn't enough.
[1] Uwe fails to reproduce it on ARMv6. The ARMv6 has a L2 cache and
uses IIRC different instructions to flush the L1 caches. (please correct
me, if I'm wrong, ARM guys :)
cheers, Marc
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From: mkl@pengutronix.de (Marc Kleine-Budde)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: still nfs problems [Was: Linux 2.6.37-rc8]
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:01:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D2487CA.5040501@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1294239193.3014.9.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>
On 01/05/2011 03:53 PM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 14:40 +0100, Uwe Kleine-K?nig wrote:
>> Hi Russell,
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 11:27:01AM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 12:05:17PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-K?nig wrote:
>>>> Hello Trond,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 09:40:14AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-K?nig wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 07:22:38PM -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>>>>>> The question is whether this is something happening on the server or the
>>>>>> client. Does an older client kernel boot without any trouble?
>>>>> I will set up a boot test with 2.6.37 (for statistics) and 2.6.36 to
>>>>> compare with. If you don't consider .36 to be old enough let me now.
>>>>> Once the setup is done it should be easy to test .35 (say), too.
>>>>>
>>>> Marc (cc'd) saw similar[1] problems with .37, when using .36.2 the
>>>> problems didn't occur. This was more reliable to trigger and he was so
>>>> kind to bisect the problem.
>>>>
>>>> When testing v2.6.36-rc3-51-gafa8ccc init hanged.
>>>> (babddc72a9468884ce1a23db3c3d54b0afa299f0 is the first bad commit with
>>>> this hang.) Commit 56e4ebf877b6043c289bda32a5a7385b80c17dee makes the
>>>> "init hangs" problem the "fileid changed on tab" problem.
>>>>
>>>> I could only reproduce that on armv5 machines (imx27, imx28 and at91)
>>>> but not on armv6 (imx35).
>>>
>>> FYI, I've seen the "fileid changed" problem, and it looked like a 32-bit
>>> truncation of the fileid. It occurred several times on successive
>>> reboots, so I tried to capture a tcpdump trace off the server (Linux
>>> 2.6.23-rc8-ga64314e6 - its ancient because I've had issues with buggy
>>> IDE drivers trying to move it forward.) However, for the last couple
>>> of weeks I've been unable to reproduce it.
>>>
>>> The client was based on 2.6.37-rc6.
>>>
>>> The "fileid changed" messages popped up after mounting an export with
>>> 'nolock,intr,rsize=4096,soft', and then trying to use bash completion
>>> and 'ls' in a few subdirectories - and entries were missing from the
>>> directory lists without 'ls' reporting any errors (which I think is bad
>>> behaviour in itself.)
>> There was a bug in at least -rc5[1] that was considered already fixed in
>> -rc4[2]. The later announcements didn't mention it anymore.
>>
>>> I don't know why it's stopped producing the errors, although once it
>>> went I never investigated it any further (was far too busy trying to
>>> get AMBA DMA support working.)
>> It seems it was fixed for most users though. Trond?
>
> As I said, I can't reproduce it.
>
> I'm seeing a lot of mention of ARM above. Is anyone seeing this bug on
> x86, or does it appear to be architecture-specific?
It _seems_ to be ARMv5 specific[1]. Uwe did some tests and figured out
that disabling dcache on ARMv5 "fixes" the problem, but
CONFIG_CPU_DCACHE_WRITETHROUGH isn't enough.
[1] Uwe fails to reproduce it on ARMv6. The ARMv6 has a L2 cache and
uses IIRC different instructions to flush the L1 caches. (please correct
me, if I'm wrong, ARM guys :)
cheers, Marc
--
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Industrial Linux Solutions | Phone: +49-231-2826-924 |
Vertretung West/Dortmund | Fax: +49-5121-206917-5555 |
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2010-12-29 1:18 Linux 2.6.37-rc8 Linus Torvalds
2010-12-29 11:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2010-12-29 12:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-12-30 1:17 ` Zhang Rui
2010-12-29 18:21 ` Linux 2.6.37-rc8 (no fb) Randy Dunlap
2010-12-29 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-29 20:16 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-12-29 20:51 ` François Valenduc
2010-12-29 21:11 ` Alex Riesen
2010-12-29 21:18 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-12-29 21:53 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-12-29 21:53 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-12-29 23:09 ` Alex Riesen
2010-12-29 23:13 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-12-29 23:20 ` Alex Riesen
2010-12-29 23:35 ` Alex Riesen
2010-12-30 0:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-12-30 0:10 ` Alex Riesen
2010-12-29 22:02 ` Alex Riesen
2010-12-29 22:12 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-12-29 22:46 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-12-29 23:40 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-12-30 18:36 ` Chris Wilson
2010-12-30 17:14 ` still nfs problems [Was: Linux 2.6.37-rc8] Uwe Kleine-König
2010-12-30 17:14 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-12-30 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-30 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-30 18:24 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-30 18:24 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-30 18:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-30 18:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-30 19:25 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-30 19:25 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-30 20:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-30 20:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-12-30 17:59 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-30 17:59 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-30 19:18 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-12-30 19:18 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-03 21:38 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-03 21:38 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-04 0:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-04 0:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 8:40 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-05 8:40 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-05 11:05 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-05 11:05 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-05 11:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 11:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 12:14 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-05 12:14 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-05 13:02 ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-01-05 13:02 ` Nori, Sekhar
2011-01-05 15:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 15:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 13:40 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-05 13:40 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-05 14:29 ` Jim Rees
2011-01-05 14:29 ` Jim Rees
2011-01-05 14:42 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-05 14:42 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-05 15:38 ` Jim Rees
2011-01-05 15:38 ` Jim Rees
2011-01-05 14:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 14:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 15:01 ` Marc Kleine-Budde [this message]
2011-01-05 15:01 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-05 15:14 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 15:14 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 15:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 15:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 15:39 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-05 15:39 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-05 15:52 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 15:52 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 17:17 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 17:17 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 17:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 17:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 18:12 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 18:12 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 18:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 18:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 18:55 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 18:55 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 19:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 19:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-14 2:25 ` Andy Isaacson
2011-01-14 2:25 ` Andy Isaacson
2011-01-14 2:40 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-14 2:40 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-14 4:22 ` Andy Isaacson
2011-01-14 4:22 ` Andy Isaacson
2011-01-03 8:48 ` Linux 2.6.37-rc8 Domenico Andreoli
2011-01-04 14:26 ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-04 14:35 ` Chris Wilson
2011-01-04 21:04 ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-04 21:15 ` Dave Airlie
2011-01-05 7:21 ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-05 22:05 ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-05 22:49 ` Dave Airlie
2011-01-06 20:27 ` Pavel Machek
2000-01-01 0:13 ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-08 12:46 ` Chris Wilson
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2010-12-31 3:17 still nfs problems [Was: Linux 2.6.37-rc8] George Spelvin
2010-12-31 4:32 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-01 1:03 ` George Spelvin
2011-01-01 1:18 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-01 5:44 ` George Spelvin
2011-01-05 19:05 James Bottomley
2011-01-05 19:05 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 19:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 19:18 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <AANLkTi=VZUxNFd7n-qwf5aiOeK5rkk8qBmo+kOpgg7up-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-05 19:36 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 19:36 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 19:36 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 19:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 19:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 19:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 20:35 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 20:35 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1294256169.16957.18.camel-0iu6Cu4xQGLYCGPCin2YbQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-05 20:00 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 20:00 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 20:00 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 20:33 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 20:33 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 20:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 20:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 20:48 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <AANLkTimzzBsdtWcZtP5E_CH1hUZugGMoaHOiMdQJf764-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-05 21:04 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 21:04 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 21:04 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 21:08 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <AANLkTi=EXXBTW7oWHq3D+PHsx=thF1CpkRjn0ax2p5rm-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-05 21:16 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 21:16 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 21:16 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1294262208.2952.4.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-05 21:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 21:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 21:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 23:06 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 23:06 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 23:28 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 23:28 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 17:40 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 17:40 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 17:47 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-06 17:47 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-06 17:51 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 17:51 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-06 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-06 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-07 18:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-07 18:53 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1294426405.2929.23.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-07 19:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-07 19:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-07 19:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-07 19:11 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-07 19:11 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1294427467.4895.66.camel-0iu6Cu4xQGLYCGPCin2YbQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-08 16:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-08 16:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-08 16:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-08 16:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-08 16:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-08 16:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-08 23:15 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-08 23:15 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-08 23:15 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-08 23:15 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1294528551.4181.19.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-10 10:50 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-10 10:50 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-10 10:50 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-10 10:50 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-10 16:25 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 16:25 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 16:25 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1294676734.3349.10.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-10 17:08 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 17:08 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 17:08 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 17:20 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 17:20 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 17:20 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1294680035.3349.19.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-10 17:26 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 17:26 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 17:26 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 17:26 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 19:25 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-10 19:25 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-10 19:25 ` Uwe Kleine-König
[not found] ` <20110110192552.GG24920-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-10 19:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 19:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 19:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 19:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 19:31 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-10 19:31 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-10 19:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-10 19:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-10 20:15 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 20:15 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 12:44 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 12:44 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 12:44 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-07 19:13 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-07 19:13 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-07 19:05 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-07 19:05 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1294335614.22825.154.camel-0iu6Cu4xQGLYCGPCin2YbQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-06 18:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-06 18:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-06 18:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-06 18:14 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 18:14 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1294337670.22825.199.camel-0iu6Cu4xQGLYCGPCin2YbQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-06 18:25 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 18:25 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 18:25 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 21:07 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 21:07 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 20:19 ` John Stoffel
2011-01-06 20:19 ` John Stoffel
2011-01-05 23:28 ` Linus Torvalds
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[not found] ` <AANLkTi=SjMinMp+m726GS1iehj6cQgNy1RqSoUqKhjtv-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-05 23:59 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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