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From: Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Locking in the clk API
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 01:54:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D2D09E2.5030305@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110111121816.GB774@linux-sh.org>

On 01/11/2011 04:18 AM, Paul Mundt wrote:
> Again, you are approaching it from the angle that an atomic clock is a
> special requirement rather than the default behaviour. Sleeping for
> lookup, addition, and deletion are all quite acceptable, but
> enable/disable pairs have always been intended to be usable from atomic
> context. Anyone that doesn't count on that fact is either dealing with
> special case clocks (PLLs, root clocks, etc.) or simply hasn't bothered
> implementing any sort of fine grained runtime power management for their
> platform.

Paul,

I see you repeating this point a couple of times and I'm a bit confused 
how you handle the clock tree/dependencies.

Does your clock driver NOT hide the details of what root clock/PLL a 
branch clock is sourced from? If you do hide the details of the root/PLL 
source, how do you get the branch clk_enable() to be done atomically if 
the root/PLL enables are not possible in atomic context?

Is it simply a matter of your hardware having PLLs and root clocks that 
can be turned on/off quickly?

-Saravana

-- 
Sent by an employee of the Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc.
The Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of the Code Aurora Forum.

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From: skannan@codeaurora.org (Saravana Kannan)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Locking in the clk API
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:54:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D2D09E2.5030305@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110111121816.GB774@linux-sh.org>

On 01/11/2011 04:18 AM, Paul Mundt wrote:
> Again, you are approaching it from the angle that an atomic clock is a
> special requirement rather than the default behaviour. Sleeping for
> lookup, addition, and deletion are all quite acceptable, but
> enable/disable pairs have always been intended to be usable from atomic
> context. Anyone that doesn't count on that fact is either dealing with
> special case clocks (PLLs, root clocks, etc.) or simply hasn't bothered
> implementing any sort of fine grained runtime power management for their
> platform.

Paul,

I see you repeating this point a couple of times and I'm a bit confused 
how you handle the clock tree/dependencies.

Does your clock driver NOT hide the details of what root clock/PLL a 
branch clock is sourced from? If you do hide the details of the root/PLL 
source, how do you get the branch clk_enable() to be done atomically if 
the root/PLL enables are not possible in atomic context?

Is it simply a matter of your hardware having PLLs and root clocks that 
can be turned on/off quickly?

-Saravana

-- 
Sent by an employee of the Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc.
The Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of the Code Aurora Forum.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Saravana Kannan <skannan@codeaurora.org>
To: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
Cc: Jeremy Kerr <jeremy.kerr@canonical.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <Lorenzo.Pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	Ben Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Uwe Kleine-K?nig <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Locking in the clk API
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:54:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D2D09E2.5030305@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110111121816.GB774@linux-sh.org>

On 01/11/2011 04:18 AM, Paul Mundt wrote:
> Again, you are approaching it from the angle that an atomic clock is a
> special requirement rather than the default behaviour. Sleeping for
> lookup, addition, and deletion are all quite acceptable, but
> enable/disable pairs have always been intended to be usable from atomic
> context. Anyone that doesn't count on that fact is either dealing with
> special case clocks (PLLs, root clocks, etc.) or simply hasn't bothered
> implementing any sort of fine grained runtime power management for their
> platform.

Paul,

I see you repeating this point a couple of times and I'm a bit confused 
how you handle the clock tree/dependencies.

Does your clock driver NOT hide the details of what root clock/PLL a 
branch clock is sourced from? If you do hide the details of the root/PLL 
source, how do you get the branch clk_enable() to be done atomically if 
the root/PLL enables are not possible in atomic context?

Is it simply a matter of your hardware having PLLs and root clocks that 
can be turned on/off quickly?

-Saravana

-- 
Sent by an employee of the Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc.
The Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of the Code Aurora Forum.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-01-12  1:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 248+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-11  2:16 Locking in the clk API Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11  2:16 ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11  2:16 ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11  3:15 ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11  3:15   ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11  3:15   ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11  4:11   ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11  4:11     ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11  4:11     ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11  4:54     ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11  4:54       ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11  4:54       ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-20 16:32       ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:32         ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:32         ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 18:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-20 18:57           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-20 18:57           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  3:43           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  3:43             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  3:43             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  9:31             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  9:31               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  9:31               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11  9:03     ` Sascha Hauer
2011-01-11  9:03       ` Sascha Hauer
2011-01-11  9:03       ` Sascha Hauer
2011-01-11  9:28       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11  9:28         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11  9:28         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11 14:34         ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-11 14:34           ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-11 14:34           ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-20 16:29   ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:29     ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:29     ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 18:56     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-20 18:56       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-20 18:56       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-20 21:30       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-20 21:30         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-20 21:30         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21  2:06         ` Dima Zavin
2011-01-21  2:06           ` Dima Zavin
2011-01-21  2:06           ` Dima Zavin
2011-01-21  4:12           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  4:12             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  4:12             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  9:32             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  9:32               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  9:32               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-22  1:53               ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-22  2:24                 ` Colin Cross
2011-01-22  2:56                   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-22  9:15                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24 19:31                   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21 21:03             ` Dima Zavin
2011-01-21 21:03               ` Dima Zavin
2011-01-21 21:03               ` Dima Zavin
2011-01-21 21:53               ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21 21:53                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21 21:53                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21 22:02                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21 22:02                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21 22:02                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21 22:28                   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-21 22:28                     ` Colin Cross
2011-01-21 22:28                     ` Colin Cross
2011-01-21 23:21                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-21 23:21                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-21 23:21                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-21 23:50                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21 23:50                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21 23:50                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-22  1:35                     ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-22  1:35                       ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-22  1:35                       ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-22  2:22                       ` Colin Cross
2011-01-22  2:22                         ` Colin Cross
2011-01-22  2:22                         ` Colin Cross
2011-01-21 22:29                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21 22:29                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21 22:29                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21 23:28                 ` Bryan Huntsman
2011-01-21 23:28                   ` Bryan Huntsman
2011-01-21 23:28                   ` Bryan Huntsman
2011-01-11  9:16 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11  9:16   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11  9:16   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11  9:44   ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11  9:44     ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11  9:44     ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11 10:13     ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11 10:13       ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11 10:13       ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11 10:30       ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11 10:30         ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11 10:30         ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11 12:18         ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11 12:18           ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11 12:18           ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11 13:52           ` 
2011-01-11 13:52             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-11 13:52             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-11 14:35           ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11 14:35             ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11 14:35             ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-12  3:25             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  3:25               ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  3:25               ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  7:40               ` 
2011-01-12  7:40                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-12  7:40                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-12  1:54           ` Saravana Kannan [this message]
2011-01-12  1:54             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  1:54             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  2:25             ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-12  2:25               ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-12  2:25               ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-20 16:57               ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:57                 ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:57                 ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:53           ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:53             ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:53             ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:40       ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:40         ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:40         ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-11 10:39     ` 
2011-01-11 10:39       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-11 10:39       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-11 10:47       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11 10:47         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11 10:47         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11 10:56         ` 
2011-01-11 10:56           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-11 10:56           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-11 11:15       ` Richard Zhao
2011-01-11 11:15         ` Richard Zhao
2011-01-11 11:15         ` Richard Zhao
2011-01-20 17:02         ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 17:02           ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 17:02           ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 19:08           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-20 19:08             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-20 19:08             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  0:09             ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  0:09               ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  0:09               ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  4:47               ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  4:47                 ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  4:47                 ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  9:39                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  9:39                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  9:39                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21 10:11                   ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21 10:11                     ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21 10:11                     ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-22  4:08                 ` Richard Zhao
2011-01-22  4:08                   ` Richard Zhao
2011-01-22  4:08                   ` Richard Zhao
2011-01-22  5:30                   ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-22  5:30                     ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-22  5:30                     ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  7:16             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  7:16               ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  7:16               ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  9:40               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  9:40                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  9:40                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-22  1:47                 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27  4:34                 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27  4:34                   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27  4:34                   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27  8:54                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27  8:54                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27  8:54                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 20:30                     ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27 20:30                       ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27 20:30                       ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27 20:43                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 20:43                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 20:43                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 21:07                         ` Alan Cox
2011-01-27 21:07                           ` Alan Cox
2011-01-27 21:07                           ` Alan Cox
2011-01-27 21:11                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 21:11                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 21:11                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 21:15                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 21:15                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 21:15                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-28  3:29                           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-28  3:29                             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-28  3:29                             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-28  3:27                         ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-28  3:27                           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-28  3:27                           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-11 12:11   ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-11 12:23     ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-11 12:11     ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-12  2:56   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  2:56     ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  2:56     ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  9:03     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-12  9:03       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-12  9:03       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 14:02       ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 14:02         ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 14:02         ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 14:53         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 14:53           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 14:53           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 15:03           ` 
2011-01-15 15:03             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-15 15:03             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-15 15:15             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 15:15               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 15:15               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 16:03               ` 
2011-01-15 16:03                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-15 16:03                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-15 16:21                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 16:21                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 16:21                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 16:31                   ` 
2011-01-15 16:31                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-15 16:31                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-16  6:59               ` Grant Likely
2011-01-16  6:59                 ` Grant Likely
2011-01-16  6:59                 ` Grant Likely
2011-01-15 17:07           ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 17:07             ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 17:07             ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 17:20             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 17:20               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 17:20               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 17:44               ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 17:44                 ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 17:44                 ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 20:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 20:30                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 20:30                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17  1:19 ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-17  1:19   ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-17  1:19   ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-17  1:27 ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-17  1:27   ` Jeremy Kerr

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