From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes for Feb 8
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:00:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D53EF91.7030400@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D53E155.5000807@redhat.com>
On 02/10/2011 02:00 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 02/10/2011 02:51 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> On 02/10/2011 12:13 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>>
>>> Which spec? Even in this discussion we completely mixed different
>>> things. 440FX is not a chipset.
>>
>> Yes, it is. It's a single silicon package with a defined pinout. If
>> you don't believe me, re-read the spec.
>>
>> It's a MCM with the PIIX3 being internally connected. The
>> connection between the i440fx and PIIX3 happens to be PCI but that's
>> not always the case. Sometimes it's a proprietary bus.
>
> Aren't they two distinct chips, together comprising the chip-set?
>
> One (the northbridge) converts the system bus to PCI + some extra
> wires, the other (southbridge) bridges PCI to ISA and contains some
> embedded ISA devices. IIRC there are some wires between them that are
> not PCI.
Yes, you are correct. So I can understand an argument for:
-device i440fx,id=pmc -device piix3,chipset=pmc
Or something like that.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes for Feb 8
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:00:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D53EF91.7030400@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D53E155.5000807@redhat.com>
On 02/10/2011 02:00 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 02/10/2011 02:51 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> On 02/10/2011 12:13 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>>
>>> Which spec? Even in this discussion we completely mixed different
>>> things. 440FX is not a chipset.
>>
>> Yes, it is. It's a single silicon package with a defined pinout. If
>> you don't believe me, re-read the spec.
>>
>> It's a MCM with the PIIX3 being internally connected. The
>> connection between the i440fx and PIIX3 happens to be PCI but that's
>> not always the case. Sometimes it's a proprietary bus.
>
> Aren't they two distinct chips, together comprising the chip-set?
>
> One (the northbridge) converts the system bus to PCI + some extra
> wires, the other (southbridge) bridges PCI to ISA and contains some
> embedded ISA devices. IIRC there are some wires between them that are
> not PCI.
Yes, you are correct. So I can understand an argument for:
-device i440fx,id=pmc -device piix3,chipset=pmc
Or something like that.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-10 14:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-08 15:55 KVM call minutes for Feb 8 Chris Wright
2011-02-08 15:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Wright
2011-02-08 16:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-08 16:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-02-08 16:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-02-08 16:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-08 17:13 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-08 17:13 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-08 19:02 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-08 21:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-08 21:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 8:11 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-09 8:20 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-09 9:02 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-08 19:30 ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-08 19:30 ` Aurelien Jarno
2011-02-09 8:23 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-09 10:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 10:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 17:38 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-09 17:38 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-08 21:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 8:01 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-09 10:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 12:28 ` Markus Armbruster
2011-02-09 14:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 17:48 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-09 17:48 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-09 19:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 19:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-09 20:15 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-10 7:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 8:16 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 8:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 9:04 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 10:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 10:38 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 11:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 11:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 12:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 13:06 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 19:17 ` Scott Wood
2011-02-10 19:17 ` Scott Wood
2011-02-10 19:22 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 19:22 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-10 19:29 ` Scott Wood
2011-02-10 19:29 ` Scott Wood
2011-02-10 9:07 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 10:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 10:10 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 10:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 10:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 12:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 13:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 10:25 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 10:25 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 11:13 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 11:13 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 12:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 12:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 13:00 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 13:00 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10 13:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 13:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 14:00 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-02-10 14:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 13:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 13:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 14:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-10 14:20 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-10 16:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-11 18:14 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-11 18:14 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13 9:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-13 9:24 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-13 15:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 15:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 19:37 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13 19:37 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 21:00 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13 21:00 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-13 22:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 22:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 17:31 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-14 17:31 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-14 20:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 20:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 21:25 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-14 21:25 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-14 21:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 21:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-15 17:11 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-15 17:11 ` Blue Swirl
2011-02-15 23:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-15 23:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-16 9:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-16 9:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-14 9:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-02-14 9:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-02-10 10:29 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-13 15:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 15:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 15:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-13 16:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 18:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-13 18:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-13 19:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-14 10:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-02-13 21:24 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-13 21:24 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-13 22:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 22:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 23:35 ` Peter Maydell
2011-02-13 15:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-13 15:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-11 17:54 ` Blue Swirl
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