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From: Marco Stornelli <marco.stornelli@gmail.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	cluster-devel@redhat.com, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Check for immutable flag in fallocate path
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 09:17:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D709FFC.6000107@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110303213903.GL15097@dastard>

Hi Dave,

Il 03/03/2011 22:39, Dave Chinner ha scritto:
> WTF?  Why does append mode have any effect on whether we can punch
> holes in a file or not? There's no justification for adding this in
> the commit message. Why is it even in a patch that is for checking
> immutable inodes? What is the point of adding it, when all that will
> happen is people will switch to XFS_IOC_UNRESVSP which has never had
> this limitation?

So according to you, it's legal to do an "unreserve" operation on an
append-only file. It's not the same for me, but if the community said
that this is the right behavior then ok.

> 
> And this asks bigger questions - why would you allow preallocate
> anywhere but at or beyond EOF on an append mode inode? You can only
> append to the file, so if you're going to add limitations based on
> the append flag, you need to think this through a bit more....
> 

I don't understand this point. The theory of operation was:

1) we don't allow any operation (reserve/unreserve) on a immutable file;
2) we don't allow *unreserve* operation on an append-only file (this
check makes sense only for fs that support the unreserve operation).

> 
> Also, like Christoph said, these checks belong in the generic code,
> not in every filesystem. The same checks have to be made for every
> filesystem, so they should be done before calling out the
> filesystems regardless of what functionality the filesystem actually
> supports.
> 

This was related to the first point, if we remove it then it's ok to
check in a common code. Even if I think we should do the check under the
inode lock to avoid race between fallocate and setattr, isn't it?

Marco

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From: Marco Stornelli <marco.stornelli@gmail.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com, cluster-devel@redhat.com,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Check for immutable flag in fallocate path
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 09:17:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D709FFC.6000107@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110303213903.GL15097@dastard>

Hi Dave,

Il 03/03/2011 22:39, Dave Chinner ha scritto:
> WTF?  Why does append mode have any effect on whether we can punch
> holes in a file or not? There's no justification for adding this in
> the commit message. Why is it even in a patch that is for checking
> immutable inodes? What is the point of adding it, when all that will
> happen is people will switch to XFS_IOC_UNRESVSP which has never had
> this limitation?

So according to you, it's legal to do an "unreserve" operation on an
append-only file. It's not the same for me, but if the community said
that this is the right behavior then ok.

> 
> And this asks bigger questions - why would you allow preallocate
> anywhere but at or beyond EOF on an append mode inode? You can only
> append to the file, so if you're going to add limitations based on
> the append flag, you need to think this through a bit more....
> 

I don't understand this point. The theory of operation was:

1) we don't allow any operation (reserve/unreserve) on a immutable file;
2) we don't allow *unreserve* operation on an append-only file (this
check makes sense only for fs that support the unreserve operation).

> 
> Also, like Christoph said, these checks belong in the generic code,
> not in every filesystem. The same checks have to be made for every
> filesystem, so they should be done before calling out the
> filesystems regardless of what functionality the filesystem actually
> supports.
> 

This was related to the first point, if we remove it then it's ok to
check in a common code. Even if I think we should do the check under the
inode lock to avoid race between fallocate and setattr, isn't it?

Marco

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-04  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-21  8:26 [PATCH] Check for immutable flag in fallocate path Marco Stornelli
2011-02-21  8:26 ` Marco Stornelli
2011-02-21 12:46 ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-02-21 12:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-02-21 12:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-02-21 16:50   ` Marco Stornelli
2011-02-21 16:50     ` Marco Stornelli
2011-02-27 22:49     ` Ted Ts'o
2011-02-27 22:49       ` Ted Ts'o
2011-02-28  7:53       ` Marco Stornelli
2011-02-28  7:53         ` Marco Stornelli
2011-02-28  7:53         ` Marco Stornelli
2011-02-28  7:53       ` Marco Stornelli
2011-02-28  7:53       ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-02  8:19       ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-02  8:19         ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-02  8:19         ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-02  8:19       ` Marco Stornelli
2011-02-26 14:59 ` Marco Stornelli
2011-02-26 14:59   ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-03  8:42 ` [PATCH v2] " Marco Stornelli
2011-03-03  8:42   ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-03 21:39   ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-03 21:39     ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-04  8:17     ` Marco Stornelli [this message]
2011-03-04  8:17       ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-04 12:18       ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-04 12:18         ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-14 10:24     ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-14 10:24       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-14 10:24       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-14 10:40       ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-14 10:40         ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-14 10:40         ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-14 10:40         ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-05  9:37   ` [PATCH v3] Check for immutable/append " Marco Stornelli
2011-03-05 10:00     ` Sedat Dilek
2011-03-05 10:10       ` [PATCH v3][RESEND] " Marco Stornelli
2011-03-09 19:42         ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-09 21:27           ` Greg KH
2011-03-10 12:03             ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-08  5:11     ` [PATCH v3] " Dave Chinner
2011-03-08  5:38       ` Andreas Dilger
2011-03-08  7:35         ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-08  7:35           ` Marco Stornelli
2011-03-09  1:30         ` Dave Chinner

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