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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	stefanha@gmail.com, kwolf@redhat.com, prerna@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] virtio_blk: add cache control support
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:05:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D8AB514.5020306@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877hbygwu7.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>

On 03/17/2011 12:06 AM, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:09:58 +0100, Christoph Hellwig<hch@lst.de>  wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 02:39:39PM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
>>>> +	if (strncmp(buf, "write through", sizeof("write through") - 1) == 0) {
>>>> +		;
>>>> +	} else if (strncmp(buf, "write back", sizeof("write back") - 1) == 0) {
>>>     Is there a reason we're not letting gcc and/or strcmp do the
>>> optimization work here?
>> I'm happ to switch strcmp.
> Of course, that's assuming buf is nul terminated.
>
>>>> +	vdev->config->set(vdev, offsetof(struct virtio_blk_config, features),
>>>> +	&features, sizeof(features));
>>>> +
>>>> +	vdev->config->get(vdev, offsetof(struct virtio_blk_config, features),
>>>> +			&features2, sizeof(features2));
>>>> +
>>>> +	if ((features&  VIRTIO_BLK_RT_WCE) !=
>>>> +	    (features2&  VIRTIO_BLK_RT_WCE))
>>>> +		return -EIO;
>>>     This seems like a debugging check you left in.  Or do you suspect
>>> some issues?
>> No, it's intentional.  config space writes can't return errors, so we need
>> to check that the value has really changed.  I'll add a comment explaining it.
> OK, under what circumstances could it fail?
>
> If you're using this mechanism to indicate that the host doesn't support
> the feature, that's making an assumption about the nature of config
> space writes which isn't true for non-PCI virtio.
>
> ie. lguest and S/390 don't trap writes to config space.
>
> Or perhaps they should?  But we should be explicit about needing it...

I don't think we ever operated on the assumption that config space 
writes would trap.

I don't think adding it is the right thing either because you can do 
byte access to the config space which makes atomicity difficult.

Any reason not to use a control queue to negotiate dynamic features?  
The authorative source of what the currently enabled features are can 
still be config space but the guest's enabling or disabling of a feature 
ought to be a control queue message.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Thanks,
> Rusty.
>
>
>


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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, stefanha@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	prerna@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH, RFC] virtio_blk: add cache control support
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 22:05:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D8AB514.5020306@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877hbygwu7.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>

On 03/17/2011 12:06 AM, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:09:58 +0100, Christoph Hellwig<hch@lst.de>  wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 02:39:39PM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
>>>> +	if (strncmp(buf, "write through", sizeof("write through") - 1) == 0) {
>>>> +		;
>>>> +	} else if (strncmp(buf, "write back", sizeof("write back") - 1) == 0) {
>>>     Is there a reason we're not letting gcc and/or strcmp do the
>>> optimization work here?
>> I'm happ to switch strcmp.
> Of course, that's assuming buf is nul terminated.
>
>>>> +	vdev->config->set(vdev, offsetof(struct virtio_blk_config, features),
>>>> +	&features, sizeof(features));
>>>> +
>>>> +	vdev->config->get(vdev, offsetof(struct virtio_blk_config, features),
>>>> +			&features2, sizeof(features2));
>>>> +
>>>> +	if ((features&  VIRTIO_BLK_RT_WCE) !=
>>>> +	    (features2&  VIRTIO_BLK_RT_WCE))
>>>> +		return -EIO;
>>>     This seems like a debugging check you left in.  Or do you suspect
>>> some issues?
>> No, it's intentional.  config space writes can't return errors, so we need
>> to check that the value has really changed.  I'll add a comment explaining it.
> OK, under what circumstances could it fail?
>
> If you're using this mechanism to indicate that the host doesn't support
> the feature, that's making an assumption about the nature of config
> space writes which isn't true for non-PCI virtio.
>
> ie. lguest and S/390 don't trap writes to config space.
>
> Or perhaps they should?  But we should be explicit about needing it...

I don't think we ever operated on the assumption that config space 
writes would trap.

I don't think adding it is the right thing either because you can do 
byte access to the config space which makes atomicity difficult.

Any reason not to use a control queue to negotiate dynamic features?  
The authorative source of what the currently enabled features are can 
still be config space but the guest's enabling or disabling of a feature 
ought to be a control queue message.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Thanks,
> Rusty.
>
>
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-24  3:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-15 14:10 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH, RFC 0/4] allow guest control of the volatile write cache Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-15 14:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] block: clarify the meaning of BDRV_O_NOCACHE Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-16  9:42   ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-16  9:55     ` Kevin Wolf
2011-03-16 14:08     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-16 17:00       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-17  9:07         ` Kevin Wolf
2011-03-17  9:18           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-15 14:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] block: add a helper to change writeback mode on the fly Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-15 14:11   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] ide: wire up setfeatures cache control Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-15 14:11   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] virtio-blk: add runtime " Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-16  9:49   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 2/4] block: add a helper to change writeback mode on the fly Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-16  9:59     ` Kevin Wolf
2011-03-17 14:44   ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2011-03-17 15:11     ` Kevin Wolf
2011-03-17 16:44       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-03-19  8:28         ` Blue Swirl
2011-03-15 14:16 ` [PATCH, RFC] virtio_blk: add cache control support Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-15 14:16   ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-16  4:09   ` Rusty Russell
2011-03-16  4:09     ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2011-03-16 14:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-16 14:09       ` [Qemu-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-17  5:06       ` Rusty Russell
2011-03-17  5:06         ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell
2011-03-17 14:21         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-17 14:21           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-24  0:11           ` Rusty Russell
2011-03-24  0:11             ` Rusty Russell
2011-03-24  3:11           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-24  3:11             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-24  3:05         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-03-24  3:05           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-03-24  9:54           ` Christian Borntraeger
2011-03-24  9:54             ` [Qemu-devel] " Christian Borntraeger
2011-03-25  5:08             ` Rusty Russell
2011-03-25  5:08               ` [Qemu-devel] " Rusty Russell

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