From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
To: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Dave Chinner" <david@fromorbit.com>,
"Yongqiang Yang" <xiaoqiangnk@gmail.com>,
"Andreas Dilger" <adilger@dilger.ca>, xfs-oss <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
"coreutils@gnu.org" <coreutils@gnu.org>,
"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
"Pádraig Brady" <P@draigbrady.com>,
"Markus Trippelsdorf" <markus@trippelsdorf.de>
Subject: Re: Files full of zeros with coreutils-8.11 and xfs (FIEMAP related?)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:13:19 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DAD987F.5000506@sandeen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110419140909.GD3030@thunk.org>
On 4/19/11 9:09 AM, Ted Ts'o wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 05:45:38PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
>> You are *not listening*. There is no #2. FIEMAP returns the extent
>> state _on disk_ at the time of the call.
>
> Dave, you're being rather strident about your insistence about what
> FIEMAP's semantics are. Part of the problem here is that it's *not*
> clear or settled.
>
> If it really is the state _on_ _disk_, does XFS really have a DELALLOC
> bit _on_ _disk_?
>
> - Ted
>
no of course it doesn't....
But I too am confused about Dave's assertion that it only reflects ondisk state when we have that pesky delalloc flag.
Whose idea was that, anyway? ;)
I'd certainly buy the argument that it -should- only reflect ondisk state, and we should nuke the delalloc flag from orbit, if we could, though.
-Eric
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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>
To: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: "Andreas Dilger" <adilger@dilger.ca>,
"Yongqiang Yang" <xiaoqiangnk@gmail.com>,
xfs-oss <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
"coreutils@gnu.org" <coreutils@gnu.org>,
"linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
"Pádraig Brady" <P@draigbrady.com>,
"Markus Trippelsdorf" <markus@trippelsdorf.de>
Subject: Re: Files full of zeros with coreutils-8.11 and xfs (FIEMAP related?)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 09:13:19 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DAD987F.5000506@sandeen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110419140909.GD3030@thunk.org>
On 4/19/11 9:09 AM, Ted Ts'o wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 05:45:38PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
>> You are *not listening*. There is no #2. FIEMAP returns the extent
>> state _on disk_ at the time of the call.
>
> Dave, you're being rather strident about your insistence about what
> FIEMAP's semantics are. Part of the problem here is that it's *not*
> clear or settled.
>
> If it really is the state _on_ _disk_, does XFS really have a DELALLOC
> bit _on_ _disk_?
>
> - Ted
>
no of course it doesn't....
But I too am confused about Dave's assertion that it only reflects ondisk state when we have that pesky delalloc flag.
Whose idea was that, anyway? ;)
I'd certainly buy the argument that it -should- only reflect ondisk state, and we should nuke the delalloc flag from orbit, if we could, though.
-Eric
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2011-04-14 10:26 Files full of zeros with coreutils-8.11 and xfs (FIEMAP related?) Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-04-14 12:06 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-04-14 14:02 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
[not found] ` <20110414140222.GB1679-tLCgZGx+iJ+kxVt8IV0GqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-14 14:59 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-04-14 14:59 ` Pádraig Brady
[not found] ` <4DA70BD3.1070409-V8g9lnOeT5ydJdNcDFJN0w@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-14 15:50 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-14 15:50 ` Eric Sandeen
[not found] ` <4DA717B2.3020305-+82itfer+wXR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-14 15:52 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-04-14 15:52 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-04-14 15:56 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-14 15:56 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-14 16:03 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-04-14 16:03 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-04-14 16:14 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-14 16:14 ` Eric Sandeen
[not found] ` <20110414160343.GA12787-tLCgZGx+iJ+kxVt8IV0GqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-14 16:21 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-14 16:21 ` Yongqiang Yang
[not found] ` <BANLkTimRxvBMp9M7zwiUY_UmmFOY5N58+A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-14 16:28 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-04-14 16:28 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-04-14 16:31 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-14 16:31 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-14 16:48 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-04-14 16:48 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-04-14 16:49 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-14 16:49 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-14 16:04 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-14 16:04 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-14 16:10 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-14 16:10 ` Yongqiang Yang
[not found] ` <BANLkTimoLeWMJgNFGW+zdeUeJyZ-_+8fMQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-05-05 11:29 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-05-05 11:29 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-05-05 11:47 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-05-05 11:47 ` Yongqiang Yang
[not found] ` <4DA7182B.8050409-V8g9lnOeT5ydJdNcDFJN0w@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-14 17:27 ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-14 17:27 ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-14 19:13 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-04-14 19:13 ` Pádraig Brady
[not found] ` <878vvcspz0.fsf-CybKA8TIZ99x3y/oJEDuiw@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-14 19:39 ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-14 19:39 ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-14 22:59 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-14 23:29 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-04-14 23:29 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-04-15 0:09 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-15 0:09 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-15 5:01 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-15 5:01 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-16 0:50 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-16 0:50 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-16 5:11 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-16 5:11 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-16 12:21 ` Theodore Tso
2011-04-16 12:21 ` Theodore Tso
2011-04-18 0:40 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-18 0:40 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-18 2:45 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-18 2:45 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-19 1:58 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-19 1:58 ` Yongqiang Yang
[not found] ` <BANLkTin=WEpSf6ddiOMNMOpCPP-wiEttSw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-19 2:59 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-19 2:59 ` Ted Ts'o
[not found] ` <20110419025949.GA3030-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-19 3:05 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-19 3:05 ` Eric Sandeen
[not found] ` <4DACFBEB.9040909-+82itfer+wXR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-21 20:12 ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-21 20:12 ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-19 3:30 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-19 3:30 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-19 4:14 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 4:14 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 5:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-19 5:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-19 3:44 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 3:44 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 6:53 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-19 6:53 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-19 7:45 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 7:45 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 8:11 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-19 8:11 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-19 14:05 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-19 14:05 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-19 14:09 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-19 14:09 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-19 14:13 ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2011-04-19 14:13 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-19 16:01 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-19 16:01 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-20 1:53 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-20 1:53 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-20 15:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-20 15:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-20 17:21 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-04-20 17:21 ` Ted Ts'o
[not found] ` <20110419140909.GD3030-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-19 21:08 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 21:08 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-20 15:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-20 15:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-16 6:05 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-16 6:05 ` Yongqiang Yang
2011-04-18 0:35 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-18 0:35 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-15 8:53 ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-15 8:53 ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-15 17:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-15 17:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20110415171629.GA9088-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-15 17:24 ` Eric Blake
2011-04-15 17:24 ` Eric Blake
2011-04-15 17:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-15 17:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20110415172603.GA20086-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-15 22:28 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-15 22:28 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-16 0:25 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-16 0:25 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-14 14:39 ` Eric Sandeen
[not found] ` <20110414102608.GA1678-tLCgZGx+iJ+kxVt8IV0GqQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-20 14:39 ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-20 14:39 ` Jim Meyering
[not found] ` <87d3khugv1.fsf-CybKA8TIZ99x3y/oJEDuiw@public.gmane.org>
2011-04-21 20:01 ` Jim Meyering
2011-04-21 20:01 ` Jim Meyering
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