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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Lukas Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	DarkNovaNick@gmail.com, linux-lvm@redhat.com,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
	device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: do not disable ext4 discards on first discard failure? [was: Re: dm snapshot: ignore discards issued to the snapshot-origin target]
Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 09:47:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DBEC3F4.3050804@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1105021458480.3778@dhcp-27-109.brq.redhat.com>

On 5/2/11 8:05 AM, Lukas Czerner wrote:
> On Mon, 2 May 2011, Mike Snitzer wrote:

...

>> The blkdev_issue_discard() change you propose could be fine (mask
>> EOPNOTSUPP return if device advertises support for discards) -- though
>> Eric said we shouldn't ever say we did something when we didn't.
> 
> Exactly, so we should not say that it is not supported when it is, but
> we just hit the "wrong" part of the device:) I would just very much like
> to keep the abstraction of having one consistent device underneath the
> file system and not deal with several devices, or regions with different
> behaviour in the file system itself (let the pixies underneath deal with
> that, after all not all of us are btrfs:))

I still think we need to stick with the simple rule: "EOPNOTSUPP returned for a particular bio means that it is not supported for that particular bio" - I don't know what else we can do, without creating an ambiguity...

This does, however, suck for the layer calling in to a complex device.

What is the overhead for sending discard bios down to a device that does not support it?

-Eric

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Lukas Czerner <lczerner@redhat.com>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	DarkNovaNick@gmail.com, linux-lvm@redhat.com,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] do not disable ext4 discards on first discard failure? [was: Re: dm snapshot: ignore discards issued to the snapshot-origin target]
Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 09:47:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DBEC3F4.3050804@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1105021458480.3778@dhcp-27-109.brq.redhat.com>

On 5/2/11 8:05 AM, Lukas Czerner wrote:
> On Mon, 2 May 2011, Mike Snitzer wrote:

...

>> The blkdev_issue_discard() change you propose could be fine (mask
>> EOPNOTSUPP return if device advertises support for discards) -- though
>> Eric said we shouldn't ever say we did something when we didn't.
> 
> Exactly, so we should not say that it is not supported when it is, but
> we just hit the "wrong" part of the device:) I would just very much like
> to keep the abstraction of having one consistent device underneath the
> file system and not deal with several devices, or regions with different
> behaviour in the file system itself (let the pixies underneath deal with
> that, after all not all of us are btrfs:))

I still think we need to stick with the simple rule: "EOPNOTSUPP returned for a particular bio means that it is not supported for that particular bio" - I don't know what else we can do, without creating an ambiguity...

This does, however, suck for the layer calling in to a complex device.

What is the overhead for sending discard bios down to a device that does not support it?

-Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-02 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-12 14:59 [linux-lvm] Testing TRIM with LVM DarkNovaNick
2011-04-12 23:47 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-04-13  1:47   ` DarkNovaNick
2011-04-13  8:41     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2011-04-13 15:38       ` DarkNovaNick
2011-04-13 22:40     ` [PATCH] dm snapshot: add discard support to the snapshot-origin target [was: Re: Testing TRIM with LVM] Mike Snitzer
2011-04-13 22:40       ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-04-13 23:48       ` Mike Snitzer
2011-04-13 23:48         ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-04-26 17:32         ` Mike Snitzer
2011-04-26 17:32           ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-04-28  0:19           ` [PATCH] dm snapshot: ignore discards issued to the snapshot-origin target Mike Snitzer
2011-04-28  0:19             ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-04-28  7:53             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-28  7:53               ` [linux-lvm] [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-28 20:59               ` do not disable ext4 discards on first discard failure? [was: Re: dm snapshot: ignore discards issued to the snapshot-origin target] Mike Snitzer
2011-04-28 20:59                 ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-04-28 21:28                 ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-28 21:28                   ` [linux-lvm] " Eric Sandeen
2011-04-28 22:59                   ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-04-28 22:59                     ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-04-28 23:01                     ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-28 23:01                       ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-28 23:11                       ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-04-28 23:11                         ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-04-29  1:12                 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-04-29  1:12                   ` [linux-lvm] " Andreas Dilger
2011-04-29 13:55                   ` Mike Snitzer
2011-04-29 13:55                     ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-04-29  9:30                 ` Lukas Czerner
2011-04-29  9:30                   ` [linux-lvm] " Lukas Czerner
2011-04-29 12:24                   ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2011-04-29 12:24                     ` [linux-lvm] " Alasdair G Kergon
2011-04-29 12:29                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-29 12:29                       ` [linux-lvm] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-29 14:28                       ` Eric Sandeen
2011-04-29 14:28                         ` [linux-lvm] " Eric Sandeen
2011-04-29 15:13                         ` Ray Morris
2011-04-29 15:13                           ` Ray Morris
2011-05-04 16:33                         ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-04 16:33                           ` [linux-lvm] " Ted Ts'o
2011-05-04 16:51                           ` Eric Sandeen
2011-05-04 16:57                             ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-04 17:02                           ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-04 17:02                             ` [linux-lvm] " Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02  7:16                     ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02  7:16                       ` [linux-lvm] " Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02  8:13                       ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-05-02  8:13                         ` [linux-lvm] " Alasdair G Kergon
2011-05-02  8:19                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02  8:19                           ` [linux-lvm] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 10:24                           ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 10:24                             ` [linux-lvm] " Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 12:48                             ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-02 12:48                               ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-05-02 13:05                               ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 13:05                                 ` [linux-lvm] " Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 14:47                                 ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2011-05-02 14:47                                   ` Eric Sandeen
2011-05-02 14:48                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 14:48                                     ` [linux-lvm] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-02 14:58                                   ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 14:58                                     ` [linux-lvm] " Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 13:48                             ` [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-02 13:48                               ` [linux-lvm] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-02 14:20                             ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-02 14:20                               ` [linux-lvm] [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-02 14:39                               ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 14:39                                 ` [linux-lvm] " Lukas Czerner
2011-05-02 14:50                                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-02 14:50                                   ` [linux-lvm] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-02 14:58                                 ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-02 14:58                                   ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-05-02 16:58                                 ` [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-02 16:58                                   ` [linux-lvm] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-03  8:57                                   ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-03  8:57                                     ` [linux-lvm] " Lukas Czerner
2011-05-04 15:10                                     ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 15:10                                       ` [linux-lvm] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 16:02                                       ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-04 16:02                                         ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-05-04 16:50                                         ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 16:50                                           ` [linux-lvm] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 18:03                                           ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-04 18:03                                             ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-05-04 17:10                                       ` [dm-devel] " Lukas Czerner
2011-05-04 17:10                                         ` [linux-lvm] " Lukas Czerner
2011-05-04 17:32                                         ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 17:32                                           ` [linux-lvm] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 17:35                                           ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-04 17:35                                             ` [linux-lvm] " Lukas Czerner
2011-05-18 12:16                                       ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-18 12:16                                         ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-05-18 12:52                                         ` Mike Snitzer
2011-05-18 12:52                                           ` [linux-lvm] " Mike Snitzer
2011-05-04 15:16                                     ` [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 15:16                                       ` [linux-lvm] " Martin K. Petersen
2011-05-04 16:12                                       ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-04 16:12                                         ` [linux-lvm] " Lukas Czerner
2011-05-05  8:33                                       ` Karel Zak
2011-05-05  8:33                                         ` [linux-lvm] " Karel Zak
2011-05-05 10:48                                         ` Lukas Czerner
2011-05-05 10:48                                           ` [linux-lvm] " Lukas Czerner
2011-04-14 15:31       ` [linux-lvm] [PATCH] dm snapshot: add discard support to the snapshot-origin target [was: Re: Testing TRIM wi DarkNovaNick

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