From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v1] Add declarations for hierarchical memory region API
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 09:31:11 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DD67B2F.5080907@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD67563.9080803@twiddle.net>
On 05/20/2011 09:06 AM, Richard Henderson wrote:
> On 05/20/2011 02:23 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 05/19/2011 11:43 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> On 05/19/2011 09:12 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>> The memory API separates the attributes of a memory region (its size, how
>>>> reads or writes are handled, dirty logging, and coalescing) from where it
>>>> is mapped and whether it is enabled. This allows a device to configure
>>>> a memory region once, then hand it off to its parent bus to map it according
>>>> to the bus configuration.
>>>>
>>>> Hierarchical registration also allows a device to compose a region out of
>>>> a number of sub-regions with different properties; for example some may be
>>>> RAM while others may be MMIO.
>>>>
>>>> + struct {
>>>> + /* If nonzero, specify bounds on access sizes beyond which a machine
>>>> + * check is thrown.
>>>> + */
>>>> + unsigned min_access_size;
>>>> + unsigned max_access_size;
>>>> + /* If true, unaligned accesses are supported. Otherwise unaligned
>>>> + * accesses throw machine checks.
>>>> + */
>>>> + bool unaligned;
>>>> + } valid;
>>>
>>> Under what circumstances would this be used?
>>>
>>> The behavior of devices that receive non-natural accesses varies wildly.
>>>
>>> For PCI devices, invalid accesses almost always return ~0. I can't think of a device where an MCE would occur.
>>
>> This was requested by Richard, so I'll let him comment.
>>
>
> Several alpha system chips MCE when accessed with incorrect sizes.
> E.g. only 64-bit accesses are allowed.
But is this a characteristic of devices or is this a characteristic of
the chipset/CPU?
At any rate, I'm fairly sure it doesn't belong in the MemoryRegion
structure.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v1] Add declarations for hierarchical memory region API
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 09:31:11 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DD67B2F.5080907@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD67563.9080803@twiddle.net>
On 05/20/2011 09:06 AM, Richard Henderson wrote:
> On 05/20/2011 02:23 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 05/19/2011 11:43 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> On 05/19/2011 09:12 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>> The memory API separates the attributes of a memory region (its size, how
>>>> reads or writes are handled, dirty logging, and coalescing) from where it
>>>> is mapped and whether it is enabled. This allows a device to configure
>>>> a memory region once, then hand it off to its parent bus to map it according
>>>> to the bus configuration.
>>>>
>>>> Hierarchical registration also allows a device to compose a region out of
>>>> a number of sub-regions with different properties; for example some may be
>>>> RAM while others may be MMIO.
>>>>
>>>> + struct {
>>>> + /* If nonzero, specify bounds on access sizes beyond which a machine
>>>> + * check is thrown.
>>>> + */
>>>> + unsigned min_access_size;
>>>> + unsigned max_access_size;
>>>> + /* If true, unaligned accesses are supported. Otherwise unaligned
>>>> + * accesses throw machine checks.
>>>> + */
>>>> + bool unaligned;
>>>> + } valid;
>>>
>>> Under what circumstances would this be used?
>>>
>>> The behavior of devices that receive non-natural accesses varies wildly.
>>>
>>> For PCI devices, invalid accesses almost always return ~0. I can't think of a device where an MCE would occur.
>>
>> This was requested by Richard, so I'll let him comment.
>>
>
> Several alpha system chips MCE when accessed with incorrect sizes.
> E.g. only 64-bit accesses are allowed.
But is this a characteristic of devices or is this a characteristic of
the chipset/CPU?
At any rate, I'm fairly sure it doesn't belong in the MemoryRegion
structure.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-20 14:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-19 14:12 [RFC v1] Memory API Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 14:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 14:12 ` [RFC v1] Add declarations for hierarchical memory region API Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 14:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 19:07 ` Alex Williamson
2011-05-20 9:18 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-20 9:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 19:27 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-05-19 19:27 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2011-05-20 9:20 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-20 9:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 20:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-20 9:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-20 14:06 ` Richard Henderson
2011-05-20 14:06 ` Richard Henderson
2011-05-20 14:31 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-05-20 14:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-20 14:40 ` Richard Henderson
2011-05-20 14:40 ` Richard Henderson
2011-05-20 14:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-20 18:16 ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-20 18:16 ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-22 6:40 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 6:40 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 6:39 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 6:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 15:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-22 15:52 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 6:38 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 6:38 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 15:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-05-22 15:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-05-22 15:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 15:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 7:01 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 7:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 21:04 ` Stefan Weil
2011-05-20 9:26 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-19 21:11 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-19 21:11 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-05-20 9:28 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-20 9:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-05-20 17:59 ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-22 6:45 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 9:32 ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-22 9:32 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2011-05-22 11:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 12:06 ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-22 12:18 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 15:32 ` Blue Swirl
2011-05-22 15:36 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 7:04 ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-22 7:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
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