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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Daniel Gollub <gollub@b1-systems.de>,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Introduce panic hypercall
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:23:20 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DFF8208.7060401@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DFF7FD0.4070002@siemens.com>

On 06/20/2011 08:13 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >  A watchdog has the advantage that is also detects lockups.
> >
> >  In fact you could implement the panic device via the existing
> >  watchdogs.  Simply program the timer for the minimum interval and
> >  *don't* service the interrupt.  This would work for non-virt setups as
> >  well as another way to issue a reset.
>
> If you manage to bring down the other guest CPUs fast enough. Otherwise,
> they may corrupt your crashdump before the host had a chance to collect
> all pieces. Synchronous signaling to the hypervisor is a bit safer.

You could NMI-IPI them.  But I agree a synchronous signal is better 
(note it's not race-free itself).

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Daniel Gollub <gollub@b1-systems.de>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Introduce panic hypercall
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 20:23:20 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DFF8208.7060401@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DFF7FD0.4070002@siemens.com>

On 06/20/2011 08:13 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >  A watchdog has the advantage that is also detects lockups.
> >
> >  In fact you could implement the panic device via the existing
> >  watchdogs.  Simply program the timer for the minimum interval and
> >  *don't* service the interrupt.  This would work for non-virt setups as
> >  well as another way to issue a reset.
>
> If you manage to bring down the other guest CPUs fast enough. Otherwise,
> they may corrupt your crashdump before the host had a chance to collect
> all pieces. Synchronous signaling to the hypervisor is a bit safer.

You could NMI-IPI them.  But I agree a synchronous signal is better 
(note it's not race-free itself).

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-20 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-20 13:38 [PATCH 0/2] Introduce panic hypercall Daniel Gollub
2011-06-20 13:38 ` [PATCH 1/2] Inroduce panic hypercall KVM_HC_PANIC (host) Daniel Gollub
2011-06-20 13:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] Call KVM_HC_PANIC if guest panics Daniel Gollub
2011-06-20 15:31 ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce panic hypercall Avi Kivity
2011-06-20 15:38   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-06-20 15:45     ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-20 15:45       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-06-20 15:59       ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-20 15:59         ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2011-06-20 16:26       ` Daniel Gollub
2011-06-20 16:26         ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel Gollub
2011-06-20 16:34         ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-20 16:34           ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-06-20 17:13           ` Jan Kiszka
2011-06-20 17:13             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2011-06-20 17:23             ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-06-20 17:23               ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-21  6:04               ` Gleb Natapov
2011-06-21  6:04                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2011-06-21  6:02           ` Gleb Natapov
2011-06-21  6:02             ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2011-06-21  8:09             ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-21  8:09               ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-06-21  8:41               ` Gleb Natapov
2011-06-21  8:41                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2011-06-21  8:56                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-21  8:56                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-06-21  9:03                   ` Gleb Natapov
2011-06-21  9:03                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2011-06-21  9:07                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-21  9:07                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-06-21  9:30               ` shawn che
2011-06-21  9:30                 ` [Qemu-devel] " shawn che
2011-06-20 19:28   ` Anthony Liguori

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