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From: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@parallels.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	"mgorman@suse.de" <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm-slab: allocate kmem_cache with __GFP_REPEAT
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:50:29 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E26DD25.4010707@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1107201638520.4921@tiger>

Pekka Enberg wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2011, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>>> The changelog isn't that convincing, really. This is kmem_cache_create()
>>> so I'm surprised we'd ever get NULL here in practice. Does this fix some
>>> problem you're seeing? If this is really an issue, I'd blame the page
>>> allocator as GFP_KERNEL should just work.
>>
>> nf_conntrack creates separate slab-cache for each net-namespace,
>> this patch of course not eliminates the chance of failure, but makes it more
>> acceptable.
>
> I'm still surprised you are seeing failures. mm/slab.c hasn't changed
> significantly in a long time. Why hasn't anyone reported this before? I'd
> still be inclined to shift the blame to the page allocator... Mel,
> Christoph?
>
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2011, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>> struct kmem_size for slub is more compact, it uses pecpu-pointers instead of
>> dumb NR_CPUS-size array.
>> probably better to fix this side...
>
> So how big is 'struct kmem_cache' for your configuration anyway? Fixing
> the per-cpu data structures would be nice but I'm guessing it'll be
> slightly painful for mm/slab.c.

With NR_CPUS=4096 and MAX_NUMNODES=512 its over 9k!
so it require order-4 page, meanwhile PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER is 3

>
>   			Pekka


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From: Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@parallels.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	"mgorman@suse.de" <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm-slab: allocate kmem_cache with __GFP_REPEAT
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:50:29 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E26DD25.4010707@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1107201638520.4921@tiger>

Pekka Enberg wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2011, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>>> The changelog isn't that convincing, really. This is kmem_cache_create()
>>> so I'm surprised we'd ever get NULL here in practice. Does this fix some
>>> problem you're seeing? If this is really an issue, I'd blame the page
>>> allocator as GFP_KERNEL should just work.
>>
>> nf_conntrack creates separate slab-cache for each net-namespace,
>> this patch of course not eliminates the chance of failure, but makes it more
>> acceptable.
>
> I'm still surprised you are seeing failures. mm/slab.c hasn't changed
> significantly in a long time. Why hasn't anyone reported this before? I'd
> still be inclined to shift the blame to the page allocator... Mel,
> Christoph?
>
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2011, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>> struct kmem_size for slub is more compact, it uses pecpu-pointers instead of
>> dumb NR_CPUS-size array.
>> probably better to fix this side...
>
> So how big is 'struct kmem_cache' for your configuration anyway? Fixing
> the per-cpu data structures would be nice but I'm guessing it'll be
> slightly painful for mm/slab.c.

With NR_CPUS=4096 and MAX_NUMNODES=512 its over 9k!
so it require order-4 page, meanwhile PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER is 3

>
>   			Pekka

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-20 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-20 12:16 [PATCH] mm-slab: allocate kmem_cache with __GFP_REPEAT Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-20 12:16 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-20 13:14 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-20 13:14   ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-20 13:28   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-20 13:28     ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-20 13:42     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-20 13:42       ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-20 13:50       ` Konstantin Khlebnikov [this message]
2011-07-20 13:50         ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-20 13:53         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-20 13:53           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-20 15:36           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 15:36             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 13:59         ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-20 13:59           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-20 13:54       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 13:54         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 14:20         ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-20 14:20           ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-20 14:32           ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-20 14:32             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-20 14:40             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 14:40               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 14:47               ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-20 14:47                 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-20 13:43   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-20 13:43     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-20 13:56     ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 13:56       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 14:08       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 14:08         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 14:52         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 14:52           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 15:09           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 15:09             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 15:34             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 15:34               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 15:56               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 15:56                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 16:17                 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 16:17                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 16:31                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 16:31                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 17:04                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 17:04                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-20 17:13                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 17:13                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 17:28                         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-20 17:28                           ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-20 17:37                           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 17:37                             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-20 17:41                             ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-20 17:41                               ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-20 18:07                               ` Matt Mackall
2011-07-20 18:07                                 ` Matt Mackall
2011-07-21  7:18                                 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-21  7:18                                   ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-20 19:09                               ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-20 19:09                                 ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-31 11:41             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-31 11:41               ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-07-31 11:44               ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-31 11:44                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-07-21  8:43           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-21  8:43             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-21 15:27             ` Christoph Lameter

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