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From: "Cousson, Benoit" <b-cousson@ti.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: "Balbi, Felipe" <balbi@ti.com>, "Hilman, Kevin" <khilman@ti.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"G, Manjunath Kondaiah" <manjugk@ti.com>,
	"devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org"
	<devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>,
	linux-omap <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: How to handle named resources with DT?
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:38:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E56888A.5020300@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110825102824.GB10405@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On 8/25/2011 12:28 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 02:16:14AM +0300, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>> on top of all that, for IPs which are used on many SoCs (such as MUSB)
>> it's quite silly to force all users to provide resources in a certain
>> order. It sounds to me that this will be prone to error in many ways
>> until everything is synced up and on the correct order.
>>
>> Ditching _byname is a very bad idea.
>
> I continue to disagree.  The current _byname is an abonimation and hack
> to try to "fix" this problem.

What problem are you considering here?

> _byname should have been implemented differently - rather than overriding
> the resources name field (which is _normally_ specified to be the device
> or driver name), a new field should have been introduced in struct resource
> to carry the resource sub-name (which is really what it is.)

I guess we agree on that, but that just means that the implementation is 
bad, not that the function is useless or evil.

> That would have avoided making /proc/iomem completely illegible with
> multiple devices using this feature.

resources are used as well for irq and dma, so that aspect is irrelevant 
in that case.

Assuming that a new field is added to keep the original semantic ot the 
name, will you be happy with the _byname API?

Benoit

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: b-cousson@ti.com (Cousson, Benoit)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: How to handle named resources with DT?
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:38:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E56888A.5020300@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110825102824.GB10405@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On 8/25/2011 12:28 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 02:16:14AM +0300, Felipe Balbi wrote:
>> on top of all that, for IPs which are used on many SoCs (such as MUSB)
>> it's quite silly to force all users to provide resources in a certain
>> order. It sounds to me that this will be prone to error in many ways
>> until everything is synced up and on the correct order.
>>
>> Ditching _byname is a very bad idea.
>
> I continue to disagree.  The current _byname is an abonimation and hack
> to try to "fix" this problem.

What problem are you considering here?

> _byname should have been implemented differently - rather than overriding
> the resources name field (which is _normally_ specified to be the device
> or driver name), a new field should have been introduced in struct resource
> to carry the resource sub-name (which is really what it is.)

I guess we agree on that, but that just means that the implementation is 
bad, not that the function is useless or evil.

> That would have avoided making /proc/iomem completely illegible with
> multiple devices using this feature.

resources are used as well for irq and dma, so that aspect is irrelevant 
in that case.

Assuming that a new field is added to keep the original semantic ot the 
name, will you be happy with the _byname API?

Benoit

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-08-25 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-09  9:23 How to handle named resources with DT? Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09  9:23 ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 16:29 ` G, Manjunath Kondaiah
2011-08-09 16:29   ` G, Manjunath Kondaiah
2011-08-09 16:57   ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 16:57     ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 17:23     ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 17:23       ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 17:47       ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 17:47         ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 17:52         ` Matt Porter
2011-08-09 17:52           ` Matt Porter
2011-08-09 18:26         ` Scott Wood
2011-08-09 18:26           ` Scott Wood
2011-08-09 20:57           ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 20:57             ` Grant Likely
     [not found]             ` <20110809205723.GE11568-e0URQFbLeQY2iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-09 21:08               ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 21:08                 ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 21:17                 ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 21:17                   ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 21:44                   ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 21:44                     ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 21:49                     ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 21:49                       ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 21:53                       ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 21:53                         ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-10  1:52                         ` David Gibson
2011-08-10  1:52                           ` David Gibson
2011-08-10  7:11                           ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-10  7:11                             ` Paul Walmsley
     [not found]                           ` <20110810015214.GD23511-787xzQ0H9iQXU02nzanrWNbf9cGiqdzd@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-10 15:01                             ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-10 15:01                               ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-10 15:18                           ` Scott Wood
2011-08-10 15:18                             ` Scott Wood
     [not found]                             ` <4E42A14B.9050308-KZfg59tc24xl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-10 15:21                               ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-10 15:21                                 ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-10 19:22                           ` Grant Likely
2011-08-10 19:22                             ` Grant Likely
2011-08-10 19:57                             ` David Brown
2011-08-10 19:57                               ` David Brown
2011-08-10 20:12                               ` Grant Likely
2011-08-10 20:12                                 ` Grant Likely
2011-08-11 12:28                             ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-11 12:28                               ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-12  3:02                               ` David Gibson
2011-08-12  3:02                                 ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                 ` <20110812030218.GP30552-787xzQ0H9iQXU02nzanrWNbf9cGiqdzd@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-12  8:14                                   ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-12  8:14                                     ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-12  8:41                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2011-08-12  8:41                                   ` Felipe Balbi
     [not found]                                   ` <20110812084106.GC19467-UiBtZHVXSwEVvW8u9ZQWYwjfymiNCTlR@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-12 14:35                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-12 14:35                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-12 15:09                                       ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-12 15:09                                         ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-12 17:21                                         ` Grant Likely
2011-08-12 17:21                                           ` Grant Likely
2011-08-24 19:15                                           ` Kevin Hilman
2011-08-24 19:15                                             ` Kevin Hilman
2011-08-24 23:16                                             ` Felipe Balbi
2011-08-24 23:16                                               ` Felipe Balbi
     [not found]                                               ` <20110824231613.GC19890-UiBtZHVXSwEVvW8u9ZQWYwjfymiNCTlR@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-25 10:28                                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-25 10:28                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                                                   ` <20110825102824.GB10405-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-25 15:05                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-25 15:05                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-25 18:16                                                       ` Kevin Hilman
2011-08-25 18:16                                                         ` Kevin Hilman
2011-08-25 21:02                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-25 21:02                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-26 11:01                                                           ` Removing platform_get_resource_byname() (was Re: How to handle named resources with DT?) Paul Walmsley
2011-08-26 11:01                                                             ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-26 11:01                                                             ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-26  4:12                                                         ` How to handle named resources with DT? David Gibson
2011-08-26  4:12                                                           ` David Gibson
     [not found]                                                           ` <20110826041200.GD2308-787xzQ0H9iQXU02nzanrWNbf9cGiqdzd@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-26 10:58                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-26 10:58                                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-26 13:06                                                               ` David Gibson
2011-08-26 13:06                                                                 ` David Gibson
2011-08-26 15:35                                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-26 15:35                                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                                                                   ` <201108261735.55412.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-26 15:41                                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-26 15:41                                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-27 14:37                                                                       ` David Gibson
2011-08-27 14:37                                                                         ` David Gibson
2011-08-27 18:13                                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-27 18:13                                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-27 19:31                                                                           ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-27 19:31                                                                             ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-29 17:16                                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-29 17:16                                                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-28  8:39                                                                           ` David Gibson
2011-08-28  8:39                                                                             ` David Gibson
2011-08-28 23:06                                                                             ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-28 23:06                                                                               ` Paul Walmsley
     [not found]                                                                               ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1108281100150.23968-rwI8Ez+7Ko+d5PgPZx9QOdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-28 23:43                                                                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-28 23:43                                                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-29  1:57                                                                               ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-29  1:57                                                                                 ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-29 17:18                                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-29 17:18                                                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-27 21:47                                                                 ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-27 21:47                                                                   ` Paul Walmsley
     [not found]                                                                   ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1108271444240.23968-rwI8Ez+7Ko+d5PgPZx9QOdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-29 21:54                                                                     ` Mark Brown
2011-08-29 21:54                                                                       ` Mark Brown
2011-08-26 14:13                                                               ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-26 14:13                                                                 ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-30  2:29                                                                 ` David Gibson
2011-08-30  2:29                                                                   ` David Gibson
2011-08-30  9:27                                                                   ` Felipe Balbi
2011-08-30  9:27                                                                     ` Felipe Balbi
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20110830092722.GG23907-UiBtZHVXSwEVvW8u9ZQWYwjfymiNCTlR@public.gmane.org>
2011-08-31  2:32                                                                       ` David Gibson
2011-08-31  2:32                                                                         ` David Gibson
2011-08-27 20:00                                                               ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-27 20:00                                                                 ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-25 17:38                                                   ` Cousson, Benoit [this message]
2011-08-25 17:38                                                     ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 21:52                     ` Scott Wood
2011-08-09 21:52                       ` Scott Wood
2011-08-09 20:55         ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 20:55           ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 21:06           ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 21:06             ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 21:16             ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 21:16               ` Grant Likely
2011-08-09 21:37               ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 21:37                 ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-12  4:10                 ` Shawn Guo
2011-08-12  4:10                   ` Shawn Guo
2011-08-12  8:56                   ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-12  8:56                     ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-12 11:47                     ` Shawn Guo
2011-08-12 11:47                       ` Shawn Guo
2011-08-12 14:40                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-12 14:40                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-08-10  1:29       ` David Gibson
2011-08-10  1:29         ` David Gibson
2011-08-10  6:08         ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-10  6:08           ` Paul Walmsley
2011-08-09 19:51 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-09 19:51   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-08-09 20:59   ` Cousson, Benoit
2011-08-09 20:59     ` Cousson, Benoit

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