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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Plan for moving forward with QOM
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:08:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E71F8C9.3030300@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QU_2OVEMG3oiXGPVS2GJ+K2fxHNWOFY467H5HERj_o7Sg@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/15/2011 05:49 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Gleb Natapov<gleb@redhat.com>  wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 01:04:00PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> For isa machines:
>> /isa/ide@0170/drive@0/disk@0
>> /isa/fdc@03f1/floppy@1
>> /isa/fdc@03f1/floppy@0
>> /isa/ide@0170/drive@0/disk@1
>
> Yes, it's not clear to me whether the OF device path will be
> orthogonal to QOM or not.

It's orthogonal to QOM.

> Another part where I am not sure yet:
> "Device names are completely independent of pathnames.  For devices that are no
> user created, device names should be treated as opaque blobs with absolutely no
> semantic meaning."
>
> What does this mean?  Perhaps you're saying that:
> create_object('rtl8139', 'my-nic')
> pci_bus_name = resolve_path('/i440fx')
> set_object_property(pci_bus_name, 'slot[2.0]', 'my-nic')

More specifically:

def resolve_path(pathname):
     ...

qmp.create_object('rtl8139', 'my-nic')
pci_bus_name = resolve_path('/i440fx')
qmp.set_object_property(pci_bus_name, 'slot[2.0]', 'my-nic')

Paths are a concept of the client.  Maybe we add some path resolution logic to 
QMP as a convenience to help keep clients consistent with each other but from a 
strict perspective, a canonical path representation doesn't exist in QOM.

> The device name is a unique identifier that can be used to select a
> specific device.  The path is a relative way of selecting devices
> given a chain of properties - you only use property names in a path,
> not device names.  Is this correct?

With the exception of the very first component in the path, yes, in the path 
representation I proposed property names are used as the remaining components.

> For convenience I imagine people would prefer this:
> create_object('rtl8139', 'my-nic')
> set_object_property('/i440fx', 'slot[2.0]', 'my-nic')
>
> So here set_object_property() detects that there is a '/' in the
> device name.  Therefore it treats the argument as a path instead of a
> device name.  We'd need to add the constraints that paths always start
> with '/' and device names may not contain '/'.

Yes, this is exactly how my python client code works FWIW.  But 
set_object_property is a local function to the client, not a function of QMP.

Again, we don't need to be this strict in the QMP interface but from a QOM 
design perspective, I think the separation is important.

> Anyway, did I understand the independence of paths and device names correctly?

Yup.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Stefan
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-15 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-14 18:04 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Plan for moving forward with QOM Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 18:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 19:30 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-14 19:42   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 21:15     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-14 22:11       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 13:43         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-15 14:11           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 16:38             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-15 18:01               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 10:12             ` Kevin Wolf
2011-09-16 13:00               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 20:00 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-14 20:22   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 20:27     ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-14 20:37     ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-14 21:25       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15  6:31 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 10:49   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-15 13:08     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-09-15 13:17   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 14:23     ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 14:46     ` John Williams
2011-09-16 16:10       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17  1:11         ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-17  2:12           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17  2:35             ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-15 13:57   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 14:14     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 14:25       ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 15:28         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 15:38           ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 16:33             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 16:59               ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 17:51                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 20:29                   ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 20:45                     ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-15 21:15                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:33                       ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 17:47                         ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-16 18:08                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 18:22                             ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 18:42                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 19:13                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 19:29                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 20:48                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 21:03                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17  0:01                                 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-16 18:18                           ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 20:50                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:47                       ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-17  0:48                         ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-17  2:17                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17  2:29                             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17  2:41                             ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-15  6:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 13:26   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 13:35     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 13:54       ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-15 14:18         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 14:33           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 14:48             ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-15 15:31             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 15:47               ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 20:23     ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-15 20:52       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-18  7:56         ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-18 14:00           ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-16  9:36       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-12-13  4:47 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-13 13:22   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-13 17:40     ` Paul Brook
2011-12-13 18:00       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-13 20:36         ` Paul Brook
2011-12-13 21:53           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14  0:39             ` Paul Brook
2011-12-14 13:53               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14 14:01                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 14:11                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14 14:35                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 14:46                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14 14:50                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-15 18:59                 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-15 19:12                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-15 21:28                     ` Paul Brook
2011-12-16  2:08                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-16  5:11                         ` Paul Brook
2011-12-14  9:11             ` Andreas Färber

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