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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
	Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Plan for moving forward with QOM
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:11:09 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EE8AE7D.1030206@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EE8AC54.4080802@redhat.com>

On 12/14/2011 08:01 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 12/14/2011 03:53 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> The fact that serial.c (which really should be called 16550.c)
>>> contains ISA
>>> specific IO callback routines feels like ISASerial isn't doing its job
>>> proberly to start with :-)
>>
>>
>> It's not really ISA specific callbacks but I need to think through
>> interaction with the memory API.
>>
>> In my qom-next branch, serial.c exposes a
>> serial_ioport_read/serial_ioport_write function.  isa-serial.c and
>> mm-serial.c create MemoryRegions based on thin wrappers around that
>> callback.
>>
>> Ideally, serial.c would export a MemoryRegion directly for the
>> registers it supported and isa-serial.c and mm-serial.c could bridge
>> that to the appropriate address space.
>>
>> I think the problem here ends up being itl_shift.  I think Avi's
>> trying to avoid having a non-flat dispatch space so you can't really
>> create a MemoryRegion that dispatches to another MemoryRegion.
>
> In fact I want the ability to create new address spaces.  For example
> index/data style interfaces, as found in RTC, IOAPIC, and PCI 0xcf8
> style config space, can be hooked to drive an RTC MemoryRegion, an
> IOAPIC MemoryRegion, and the PCI config space address space.

I think that might be overgeneralizing a bit.  There tends to be a lot of 
weirdness in how register demultiplexing works.

A UART uses a bit to determine whether address 0/1 reads the divisor or the 
thr/ier register.  It also dispatches reads/writes to different registers.

Even PCI config space is a bit weird.  The address register always needs to have 
the high bit set, otherwise ~0U is returned.  You could do something weird like 
either offset the address space, or have some special logic to handle it, but I 
think this tends to vary so much that you'll end up with a lot of special cases 
instead of having the logic live in the device where it more correctly belongs.

>
>>    We discussed it before and I believe he was planning on adding
>> itl_shift as a MemoryRegion mutator.
>
> I don't think it makes sense as a mutator, can it_shift change
> dynamically?  But as part of setup, yes.
>
>> Avi, did I understand that all correctly?
>
> If you mean that the interface between serial.c and isa-serial.c (or
> however they're renamed) should be MemoryRegions exposed by one and
> mapped by the other, then yes, I think that's the right interface.

So I guess it's just a question of how to make it work.  I actually think the 
most natural way is to have a MemoryRegion not attached to an AddressSpace and 
have the MemoryRegion bounce requests to another MemoryRegion.

I think that violates the basic design of the memory API though.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-14 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-14 18:04 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Plan for moving forward with QOM Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 18:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 19:30 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-14 19:42   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 21:15     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-14 22:11       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 13:43         ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-15 14:11           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 16:38             ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-15 18:01               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 10:12             ` Kevin Wolf
2011-09-16 13:00               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 20:00 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-14 20:22   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 20:27     ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-14 20:37     ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-14 21:25       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15  6:31 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 10:49   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-15 13:08     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 13:17   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 14:23     ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 14:46     ` John Williams
2011-09-16 16:10       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17  1:11         ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-17  2:12           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17  2:35             ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-15 13:57   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 14:14     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 14:25       ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 15:28         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 15:38           ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 16:33             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 16:59               ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 17:51                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 20:29                   ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 20:45                     ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-15 21:15                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:33                       ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 17:47                         ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-16 18:08                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 18:22                             ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 18:42                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 19:13                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 19:29                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 20:48                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 21:03                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17  0:01                                 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-16 18:18                           ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 20:50                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:47                       ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-17  0:48                         ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-17  2:17                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17  2:29                             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17  2:41                             ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-15  6:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 13:26   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 13:35     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 13:54       ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-15 14:18         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 14:33           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 14:48             ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-15 15:31             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 15:47               ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 20:23     ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-15 20:52       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-18  7:56         ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-18 14:00           ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-16  9:36       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-12-13  4:47 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-13 13:22   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-13 17:40     ` Paul Brook
2011-12-13 18:00       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-13 20:36         ` Paul Brook
2011-12-13 21:53           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14  0:39             ` Paul Brook
2011-12-14 13:53               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14 14:01                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 14:11                   ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-12-14 14:35                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 14:46                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14 14:50                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-15 18:59                 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-15 19:12                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-15 21:28                     ` Paul Brook
2011-12-16  2:08                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-16  5:11                         ` Paul Brook
2011-12-14  9:11             ` Andreas Färber

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