From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Plan for moving forward with QOM
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:15:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E726AE9.1040905@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9x+y3+qk1FEivASd63nOF-ONRz+GPTSNu_5x4Vn=UaYA@mail.gmail.com>
On 09/15/2011 03:45 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 15 September 2011 21:29, Gleb Natapov<gleb@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 16650A is not a device. ISA card it resides on is a device.
>
> The 16550A is an encapsulated set of functionality with some
> well defined interfaces ("I provide a set of memory mapped
> registers", "I have an output gpio line (irq)"), which we
> need to be able to compose into other things (lots of models
> use a 16550A one way or another, not just the ISA serial card),
> connect up (ie connect that irq to an appropriate interrupt
> controller, map the registers in system memory or under ISA
> or whatever), and configure (eg specify the backend chardev).
Absolutely.
My view of a "bus" has always been that it's just a well defined set of
connectors. Inheritance becomes a useful way of obtaining that well defined set
of connectors.
So:
/i440fx/slot[3] = my-e1000
Is really just short-hand for:
/i440fx/slot[3]-bar[0] = my-e1000.bar[0]
/i440fx/slot[3]-bar[1] = my-e1000.bar[1]
...
And more specifically, my thinking was that you could basically omit the
explicit use of connectors when using a Bus for the sake of convenience. So
there's no real need for my-e1000 to actively publish bar[0], bar[1].
I think that later point is where you object most and it's also the area that
I'm the least convinced myself so I'm pretty open there.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> I don't think there's any difference at all between that
> and (say) the NE2000 PCI model, which also is encapsulated
> functionality with well defined interfaces that we need to
> be able to compose and connect and configure. We should be
> using the same implementation and abstractions for both
> cases.
>
> (Note the analogy to hardware: a 16550A chip is a well
> specified encapsulated set of functionality with some
> electrical, timing, etc restrictions on its use. The
> only difference between that and an ISA card is that the
> ISA card happens to be physically manufactured so that an
> end user can plug it, unplug it and wave it around.)
>
> -- PMM
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-15 21:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-14 18:04 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Plan for moving forward with QOM Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 18:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 19:30 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-14 19:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 21:15 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-14 22:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 13:43 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-15 14:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 16:38 ` Jan Kiszka
2011-09-15 18:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 10:12 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-09-16 13:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 20:00 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-14 20:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-14 20:27 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-14 20:37 ` Blue Swirl
2011-09-14 21:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 6:31 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 10:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-09-15 13:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 13:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 14:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 14:46 ` John Williams
2011-09-16 16:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17 1:11 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-17 2:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17 2:35 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-15 13:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 14:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 14:25 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 15:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 15:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 16:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 16:59 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 17:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 20:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 20:45 ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-15 21:15 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-09-16 16:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 17:47 ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-16 18:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 18:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 18:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 19:13 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 19:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 20:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-16 21:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17 0:01 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-16 18:18 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-15 20:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-16 16:47 ` Gleb Natapov
2011-09-17 0:48 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-17 2:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17 2:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-17 2:41 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-09-15 6:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 13:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 13:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 13:54 ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-15 14:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 14:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 14:48 ` Peter Maydell
2011-09-15 15:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-15 15:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-09-15 20:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-15 20:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-09-18 7:56 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-18 14:00 ` Avi Kivity
2011-09-16 9:36 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-12-13 4:47 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-13 13:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-13 17:40 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-13 18:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-13 20:36 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-13 21:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14 0:39 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-14 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14 14:01 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 14:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14 14:35 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 14:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14 14:50 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-15 18:59 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-15 19:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-15 21:28 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-16 2:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-16 5:11 ` Paul Brook
2011-12-14 9:11 ` Andreas Färber
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