From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>
Cc: "tj@kernel.org" <tj@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] Freezer, CPU hotplug, x86 Microcode: Fix task freezing failures
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:15:48 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E933D5C.3040803@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111010183442.GC29415@aftab>
On 10/11/2011 12:04 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> Hi Tejun,
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 02:08:48PM -0400, tj@kernel.org wrote:
>> Maybe I'm confused but is that patch correct for actual CPU hotplug
>> case? If not, what's the point in doing that? What are we gonna do
>> after six month some people come up with "CPU hotplug fails to load
>> new microcode for the new CPU"?
>
[...]
>
>> If somebody is sure that microcode don't need to be changed once
>> loaded, then all's good and dandy but that's not the case here, right?
>
> Well, basically the current situation didn't change the ucode - it
> simply reloaded the same image from before going offline.
>
> See, there's this another problem with what we have right now: imagine
> you've just updated the ucode image on disk and offline only a subset of
> the cores. Then you online them again and they now get the newer ucode
> image while the others still run the old ucode. This could explode or
> could not, one thing's for sure: all bets are off. If we don't reload it
> on hotplug, we're fine - only module reload triggers the ucode update in
> a fairly synchronized manner.
>
This one makes a lot of sense to me. I hadn't thought of it before.
>> If you want to optimize away microcode unloading during
>> suspend/resume, the RTTD is doing revalidation / reload during
>> CPU_ONLINE as necessary.
>
> see above.
>
>> If this use case doesn't really matter too much to anyone, just
>> leaving it alone would be better than adding band aid which can lead
>> to very obscure issues down the road (oooh, that microcode shouldn't
>> have been loaded to that cpu).
>
> I'd like to actually hear someone justify such a requirement.
>
> I hope I'm making some sense here.
>
--
Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Linux Technology Center,
IBM India Systems and Technology Lab
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-10-10 18:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-10 12:31 [PATCH v2 0/3] Freezer, CPU hotplug, x86 Microcode: Fix task freezing failures Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-10 12:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] Introduce helper functions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-10 12:33 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] Mutually exclude cpu online and suspend/hibernate Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-10 12:45 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-10 14:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-10 15:16 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-11 20:32 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-11 21:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-12 3:57 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-12 19:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-12 21:25 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-12 22:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-13 15:42 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-13 16:06 ` Tejun Heo
2011-10-13 17:01 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-13 17:29 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-19 17:29 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-13 18:03 ` Alan Stern
2011-10-13 19:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-13 19:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-10-10 15:25 ` Alan Stern
2011-10-10 17:00 ` Tejun Heo
2011-10-11 9:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-11 9:37 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-10 12:33 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] Update documentation Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-10 15:23 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Freezer, CPU hotplug, x86 Microcode: Fix task freezing failures Alan Stern
2011-10-10 15:32 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-10 16:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-10 17:14 ` Pavel Machek
2011-10-10 17:30 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-10 17:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-10 18:08 ` tj
2011-10-10 18:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-10-10 18:45 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2011-10-10 18:53 ` tj
2011-10-10 19:00 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2011-10-10 20:35 ` Borislav Petkov
[not found] ` <20111010202913.GA30798@aftab>
2011-10-10 21:13 ` tj
2011-10-11 9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-10 16:57 ` Tejun Heo
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