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From: Thomas Hellstrom <thellstrom@vmware.com>
To: j.glisse@gmail.com
Cc: thellstrom@vmware.com, Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/13] drm/ttm: overhaul memory accounting
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:27:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EBBA715.1000004@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1320870150-23151-6-git-send-email-j.glisse@gmail.com>

On 11/09/2011 09:22 PM, j.glisse@gmail.com wrote:
> From: Jerome Glisse<jglisse@redhat.com>
>
> This is an overhaul of the ttm memory accounting. This tries to keep
> the same global behavior while removing the whole zone concept. It
> keeps a distrinction for dma32 so that we make sure that ttm don't
> starve the dma32 zone.
>
> There is 3 threshold for memory allocation :
> - max_mem is the maximum memory the whole ttm infrastructure is
>    going to allow allocation for (exception of system process see
>    below)
> - emer_mem is the maximum memory allowed for system process, this
>    limit is>  to max_mem
> - swap_limit is the threshold at which point ttm will start to
>    try to swap object because ttm is getting close the max_mem
>    limit
> - swap_dma32_limit is the threshold at which point ttm will start
>    swap object to try to reduce the pressure on the dma32 zone. Note
>    that we don't specificly target object to swap to it might very
>    well free more memory from highmem rather than from dma32
>
> Accounting is done through used_mem&  used_dma32_mem, which sum give
> the total amount of memory actually accounted by ttm.
>
> Idea is that allocation will fail if (used_mem + used_dma32_mem)>
> max_mem and if swapping fail to make enough room.
>
> The used_dma32_mem can be updated as a later stage, allowing to
> perform accounting test before allocating a whole batch of pages.
>
>    

Jerome, you're removing a fair amount of functionality here, without 
justifying
why it could be removed.

Consider a low-end system with 1G of kernel memory and 10G of highmem. 
How do we avoid putting stress on the kernel memory? I also wouldn't be 
too surprised if DMA32 zones appear in HIGHMEM systems in the future 
making the current zone concept good to keep.

Also, in effect you move the DOS from *all* zones into the DMA32 zone 
and create a race in that multiple simultaneous allocators can first 
pre-allocate out of the global zone, and then update the DMA32 zone 
without synchronization. In this way you might theoretically end up with 
more DMA32 pages allocated than present in the zone.

With the proposed code there's also a theoretical problem in that a 
potentially huge number of pages are unaccounted before they are 
actually freed.

A possible way around all this is to pre-allocate out of *all* zones, 
and after the big allocation release back memory to relevant zones. If 
such a big allocation fails, one needs to revert back to a page-by-page 
scheme.

/Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-10 10:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-09 20:22 ttm: merge ttm_backend & ttm_tt, introduce ttm dma allocator j.glisse
2011-11-09 20:22 ` [PATCH 01/13] drm/ttm: remove userspace backed ttm object support j.glisse
2011-11-09 20:22 ` [PATCH 02/13] drm/ttm: remove split btw highmen and lowmem page j.glisse
2011-11-09 20:22 ` [PATCH 03/13] drm/ttm: remove unused backend flags field j.glisse
2011-11-09 20:22 ` [PATCH 04/13] drm/ttm: use ttm put pages function to properly restore cache attribute j.glisse
2011-11-09 20:22 ` [PATCH 05/13] drm/ttm: overhaul memory accounting j.glisse
2011-11-10 10:27   ` Thomas Hellstrom [this message]
2011-11-10 18:05     ` Jerome Glisse
2011-11-10 20:05       ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-11-10 23:33         ` Jerome Glisse
2011-11-11  7:49           ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-11-11  8:47             ` Dave Airlie
2011-11-11  9:08               ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-11-11 15:47             ` Jerome Glisse
2011-11-11 16:22               ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-11-11 17:15                 ` Jerome Glisse
2011-11-09 20:22 ` [PATCH 06/13] drm/ttm: convert page allocation to use page ptr array instead of list V4 j.glisse
2011-11-09 20:22 ` [PATCH 07/13] drm/ttm: test for dma_address array allocation failure j.glisse
2011-11-09 20:22 ` [PATCH 08/13] drm/ttm: merge ttm_backend and ttm_tt V2 j.glisse
2011-11-09 20:22 ` [PATCH 09/13] drm/ttm: introduce callback for ttm_tt populate & unpopulate V2 j.glisse
2011-11-09 20:22 ` [PATCH 10/13] ttm: Provide DMA aware TTM page pool code. V5 j.glisse
2011-11-09 20:22 ` [PATCH 11/13] swiotlb: Expose swiotlb_nr_tlb function to modules j.glisse
2011-11-09 20:22 ` [PATCH 12/13] drm/radeon/kms: Enable the TTM DMA pool if swiotlb is on V2 j.glisse
2011-11-09 20:22 ` [PATCH 13/13] drm/nouveau: enable the TTM DMA pool on 32-bit DMA only device V2 j.glisse
2011-11-09 20:25 ` ttm: merge ttm_backend & ttm_tt, introduce ttm dma allocator Thomas Hellstrom
2011-11-09 21:03   ` Jerome Glisse

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