From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] State of KVM bits in linux-headers
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:48:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F0DE7A4.5050000@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7780A9ED-CF05-41D8-8521-FDAEAC984EB7@suse.de>
On 2012-01-11 20:46, Alexander Graf wrote:
>
> On 11.01.2012, at 20:41, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>> On 01/11/2012 01:38 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to see us avoiding this in the future. Headers update
>>>>> patches should mention the source and should not be merged until the ABI
>>>>> changes actually made it at least into kvm.git. Same applies, of course,
>>>>> to the functional changes related to that ABI. Otherwise we risk quite
>>>>> some mess on everyone's side.
>>>>
>>>> I agree.
>>>>
>>>>> Another thing: KVM_CAP_PPC_HIOR has been removed again from the kernel
>>>>> and also the header. Is there real free space now or will the cap
>>>>> reappear? If there should better be a placeholder, let's add it (to the
>>>>> kernel).
>>>>
>>>> I will reappear with ONE_REG semantics.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK.
>>>
>>> Then please clean up now so that update-linux-headers.sh can be used
>>> again by "normal" developers. :)
>>
>> Before we did submodules and had a responsive BIOS maintainer, we maintained patches within qemu.git for our external dependencies. I think that's a good strategy here too. It's a little painful, but not entirely awful.
>>
>> At least it makes it possible for you to (hopefully) trivial rebase a patch if something is still in limbo.
>
> Yeah, that works. I can easily script that part. It doesn't solve the actual underlying problem though that we don't know when the abi is actually stable. I'm slowly starting to understand Pekka ;).
IIRC, we never had this problem with qemu-kvm - as the merges were
coordinated with the kernel (subsystem) tree.
Jan
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Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux
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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] State of KVM bits in linux-headers
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:48:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F0DE7A4.5050000@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7780A9ED-CF05-41D8-8521-FDAEAC984EB7@suse.de>
On 2012-01-11 20:46, Alexander Graf wrote:
>
> On 11.01.2012, at 20:41, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>> On 01/11/2012 01:38 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to see us avoiding this in the future. Headers update
>>>>> patches should mention the source and should not be merged until the ABI
>>>>> changes actually made it at least into kvm.git. Same applies, of course,
>>>>> to the functional changes related to that ABI. Otherwise we risk quite
>>>>> some mess on everyone's side.
>>>>
>>>> I agree.
>>>>
>>>>> Another thing: KVM_CAP_PPC_HIOR has been removed again from the kernel
>>>>> and also the header. Is there real free space now or will the cap
>>>>> reappear? If there should better be a placeholder, let's add it (to the
>>>>> kernel).
>>>>
>>>> I will reappear with ONE_REG semantics.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK.
>>>
>>> Then please clean up now so that update-linux-headers.sh can be used
>>> again by "normal" developers. :)
>>
>> Before we did submodules and had a responsive BIOS maintainer, we maintained patches within qemu.git for our external dependencies. I think that's a good strategy here too. It's a little painful, but not entirely awful.
>>
>> At least it makes it possible for you to (hopefully) trivial rebase a patch if something is still in limbo.
>
> Yeah, that works. I can easily script that part. It doesn't solve the actual underlying problem though that we don't know when the abi is actually stable. I'm slowly starting to understand Pekka ;).
IIRC, we never had this problem with qemu-kvm - as the merges were
coordinated with the kernel (subsystem) tree.
Jan
--
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT T DE IT 1
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-11 19:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-11 19:16 State of KVM bits in linux-headers Jan Kiszka
2012-01-11 19:16 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-01-11 19:32 ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-11 19:32 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2012-01-11 19:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 19:45 ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-11 19:46 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-11 19:46 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-11 19:48 ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-11 19:48 ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-11 19:38 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-11 19:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2012-01-11 19:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 19:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 19:46 ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-11 19:48 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2012-01-11 19:48 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-11 19:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 19:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 19:53 ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-11 19:53 ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-11 19:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 20:05 ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-11 20:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 21:48 ` Alexander Graf
2012-01-11 21:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2012-01-12 8:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-12 8:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-11 19:56 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-11 19:56 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-01-12 6:35 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-12 6:35 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-01-11 19:32 ` [RFC][PATCH] Update linux headers against kvm.git Jan Kiszka
2012-01-11 19:32 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
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