From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] zsmalloc use zs_handle instead of void *
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 08:24:43 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FAC4E3B.3030909@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120510173322.GA30481@phenom.dumpdata.com>
On 05/11/2012 02:33 AM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 01:24:36PM -0400, Nitin Gupta wrote:
>> On 5/10/12 12:44 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:29:41PM -0400, Nitin Gupta wrote:
>>>> On 5/10/12 11:19 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:11:27AM -0500, Seth Jennings wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/10/2012 09:47 AM, Nitin Gupta wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/10/12 10:02 AM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>>>>>>> struct zs {
>>>>>>>> void *ptr;
>>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And pass that structure around?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A minor problem is that we store this handle value in a radix tree node.
>>>>>>> If we wrap it as a struct, then we will not be able to store it directly
>>>>>>> in the node -- the node will have to point to a 'struct zs'. This will
>>>>>>> unnecessarily waste sizeof(void *) for every object stored.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think so. You can use the fact that for a struct zs var,&var
>>>>>> and&var->ptr are the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the structure above:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> void * zs_to_void(struct zs *p) { return p->ptr; }
>>>>>> struct zs * void_to_zs(void *p) { return (struct zs *)p; }
>>>>>
>>>>> Do like what the rest of the kernel does and pass around *ptr and use
>>>>> container_of to get 'struct zs'. Yes, they resolve to the same pointer
>>>>> right now, but you shouldn't "expect" to to be the same.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think we can just use unsigned long as zs handle type since all we
>>>> have to do is tell the user that the returned value is not a
>>>> pointer. This will be less pretty than a typedef but still better
>>>> than a single entry struct + container_of stuff.
>>>
>>> But then you are casting the thing all around just as much as you were
>>> with the void *, right?
>>>
>>> Making this a "real" structure ensures type safety and lets the compiler
>>> find the problems you accidentally create at times :)
>>>
>>
>> If we return a 'struct zs' from zs_malloc then I cannot see how we
>> are solving the original problem of storing the handle directly in a
>> radix node. If we pass a struct zs we will require pointing radix
>> node to this struct, wasting sizeof(void *) for every object. If
>> we pass unsigned long, then this problem is solved and it also makes
>> it clear that the passed value is not a pointer.
>
> It is the same size: sizeof(struct zs) == sizeof(void *).
> When you return the 'struct zs' it will be as if you are returning
> a void * pointer.
>
Please look.
struct zs_handle {
void *handle
};
1)
static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
{
struct zs_handle handle;
..
handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
..
return handle;
}
handle is on stack so it can't be used by index for slot of radix tree.
2)
static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
{
struct zs_handle handle;
..
handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
..
return handle.handle;
}
Okay. Now it works but zcache coupled with zsmalloc tightly.
User of zsmalloc should never know internal of zs_handle.
3)
- zsmalloc.h
void *zs_handle_to_ptr(struct zs_handle handle)
{
return handle.hanle;
}
static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
{
struct zs_handle handle;
..
handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
..
return zs_handle_to_ptr(handle);
}
Why should zsmalloc support such interface?
It's a zcache problem so it's desriable to solve it in zcache internal.
And in future, if we can add/remove zs_handle's fields, we can't make
sure such API.
>> Its true that making it a real struct would prevent accidental casts
>> to void * but due to the above problem, I think we have to stick
>> with unsigned long.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nitin
>
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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: Nitin Gupta <ngupta@vflare.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] zsmalloc use zs_handle instead of void *
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 08:24:43 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FAC4E3B.3030909@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120510173322.GA30481@phenom.dumpdata.com>
On 05/11/2012 02:33 AM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 01:24:36PM -0400, Nitin Gupta wrote:
>> On 5/10/12 12:44 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:29:41PM -0400, Nitin Gupta wrote:
>>>> On 5/10/12 11:19 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:11:27AM -0500, Seth Jennings wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/10/2012 09:47 AM, Nitin Gupta wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/10/12 10:02 AM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>>>>>>> struct zs {
>>>>>>>> void *ptr;
>>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And pass that structure around?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A minor problem is that we store this handle value in a radix tree node.
>>>>>>> If we wrap it as a struct, then we will not be able to store it directly
>>>>>>> in the node -- the node will have to point to a 'struct zs'. This will
>>>>>>> unnecessarily waste sizeof(void *) for every object stored.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think so. You can use the fact that for a struct zs var,&var
>>>>>> and&var->ptr are the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the structure above:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> void * zs_to_void(struct zs *p) { return p->ptr; }
>>>>>> struct zs * void_to_zs(void *p) { return (struct zs *)p; }
>>>>>
>>>>> Do like what the rest of the kernel does and pass around *ptr and use
>>>>> container_of to get 'struct zs'. Yes, they resolve to the same pointer
>>>>> right now, but you shouldn't "expect" to to be the same.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think we can just use unsigned long as zs handle type since all we
>>>> have to do is tell the user that the returned value is not a
>>>> pointer. This will be less pretty than a typedef but still better
>>>> than a single entry struct + container_of stuff.
>>>
>>> But then you are casting the thing all around just as much as you were
>>> with the void *, right?
>>>
>>> Making this a "real" structure ensures type safety and lets the compiler
>>> find the problems you accidentally create at times :)
>>>
>>
>> If we return a 'struct zs' from zs_malloc then I cannot see how we
>> are solving the original problem of storing the handle directly in a
>> radix node. If we pass a struct zs we will require pointing radix
>> node to this struct, wasting sizeof(void *) for every object. If
>> we pass unsigned long, then this problem is solved and it also makes
>> it clear that the passed value is not a pointer.
>
> It is the same size: sizeof(struct zs) == sizeof(void *).
> When you return the 'struct zs' it will be as if you are returning
> a void * pointer.
>
Please look.
struct zs_handle {
void *handle
};
1)
static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
{
struct zs_handle handle;
..
handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
..
return handle;
}
handle is on stack so it can't be used by index for slot of radix tree.
2)
static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
{
struct zs_handle handle;
..
handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
..
return handle.handle;
}
Okay. Now it works but zcache coupled with zsmalloc tightly.
User of zsmalloc should never know internal of zs_handle.
3)
- zsmalloc.h
void *zs_handle_to_ptr(struct zs_handle handle)
{
return handle.hanle;
}
static struct zv_hdr *zv_create(..)
{
struct zs_handle handle;
..
handle = zs_malloc(pool, size);
..
return zs_handle_to_ptr(handle);
}
Why should zsmalloc support such interface?
It's a zcache problem so it's desriable to solve it in zcache internal.
And in future, if we can add/remove zs_handle's fields, we can't make
sure such API.
>> Its true that making it a real struct would prevent accidental casts
>> to void * but due to the above problem, I think we have to stick
>> with unsigned long.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nitin
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-10 23:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-03 6:40 [PATCH 1/4] zsmalloc: rename zspage_order with zspage_pages Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 6:40 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 6:40 ` [PATCH 2/4] zsmalloc: add/fix function comment Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 6:40 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:19 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-03 13:19 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-03 6:40 ` [PATCH 3/4] zsmalloc use zs_handle instead of void * Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 6:40 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:32 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-03 13:32 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-03 15:23 ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-03 15:23 ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-04 2:24 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-04 2:24 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-07 15:01 ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-07 15:01 ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-09 20:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-09 20:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 2:03 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 2:03 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 14:02 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-10 14:02 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-10 14:12 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 14:12 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 14:47 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 14:47 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 15:00 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 15:00 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 15:11 ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-10 15:11 ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-10 15:19 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 15:19 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 15:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 15:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 16:29 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 16:29 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 16:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 16:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-05-10 17:24 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 17:24 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-10 17:33 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-10 17:33 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-10 23:24 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2012-05-10 23:24 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-10 23:50 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-10 23:50 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-11 0:14 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 0:14 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 16:31 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-11 16:31 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-11 19:29 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-11 19:29 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-11 21:49 ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-11 21:49 ` Seth Jennings
2012-05-14 2:26 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-14 2:26 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 19:28 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-11 19:28 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-14 2:18 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-14 2:18 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-15 1:57 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-15 1:57 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-15 2:21 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-15 2:21 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-15 15:04 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-15 15:04 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-16 1:36 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-16 1:36 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-16 11:06 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-16 11:06 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-03 6:40 ` [PATCH 4/4] zsmalloc: zsmalloc: align cache line size Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 6:40 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:58 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-03 13:58 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-04 2:27 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-04 2:27 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-07 7:41 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-07 7:41 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-07 12:40 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-07 12:40 ` Nitin Gupta
2012-05-08 1:34 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-08 1:34 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-08 14:00 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-08 14:00 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-09 0:58 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-09 0:58 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-09 3:08 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-09 3:08 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-09 4:07 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-09 4:07 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 0:03 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-11 0:03 ` Dan Magenheimer
2012-05-11 0:25 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 0:25 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-11 19:06 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-11 19:06 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-14 1:55 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-14 1:55 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-15 15:18 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-15 15:18 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-05-16 1:44 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-16 1:44 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-03 13:18 ` [PATCH 1/4] zsmalloc: rename zspage_order with zspage_pages Nitin Gupta
2012-05-03 13:18 ` Nitin Gupta
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