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From: "Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: "Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@vates.tech>,
	"Michal Orzel" <michal.orzel@amd.com>,
	"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] build: add make macro for making file from file.in
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 13:51:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4e721924-d28b-4d7e-9aee-d55cd5e7878f@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d3528e7b-a811-47ca-a508-c0aa0746d9f3@citrix.com>


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On 17.11.25 13:30, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 17/11/2025 12:24 pm, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 14.11.2025 13:54, Jürgen Groß wrote:
>>> On 14.11.25 12:42, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>> On 14/11/2025 11:32 am, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>>> diff --git a/Config.mk b/Config.mk
>>>>> index e1556dfbfa..d21d67945a 100644
>>>>> --- a/Config.mk
>>>>> +++ b/Config.mk
>>>>> @@ -159,6 +159,19 @@ define move-if-changed
>>>>>    	if ! cmp -s $(1) $(2); then mv -f $(1) $(2); else rm -f $(1); fi
>>>>>    endef
>>>>>    
>>>>> +PATH_FILES := Paths
>>>>> +INC_FILES := $(foreach f, $(PATH_FILES), $(XEN_ROOT)/config/$(f).mk)
>>>>> +
>>>>> +include $(INC_FILES)
>>>>> +
>>>>> +BUILD_MAKE_VARS := $(foreach f, $(PATH_FILES), $(shell awk '$$2 == ":=" { print $$1; }' $(XEN_ROOT)/config/$(f).mk.in))
>>>>> +
>>>>> +# Replace @xxx@ markers in $(1).in with $(xxx) variable contents, write to $(1)
>>>>> +define apply-build-vars
>>>>> + $(1): $(1).in
>>>>> +	sed $$(foreach v, $$(BUILD_MAKE_VARS), -e 's#@$$(v)@#$$($$(v))#g') <$$< >$$@
>>>>> +endef
>>>> Shouldn't this write to a tmp file, and use move-if-changed?  Most of
>>>> the time the markers won't have changed, and we'll want to short circuit
>>>> dependent rules.
>>> I can see this being an advantage when e.g. generating header files, as
>>> those being generated again would potentially cause lots of rebuilds.
>>>
>>> In this case I can hardly see any case where make wouldn't do the right
>>> thing already. Either the *.in file is newer than the generated file due
>>> to a git update or a manual edit, so make will regenerate the target (and
>>> this is what we want), or the *.in file hasn't changed, so make won't
>>> regenerate the file as it is newer than the *.in file already.
>>>
>>> Or did I miss some aspect?
>> Aren't some of the generated files Makefile fragments? Them being re-generated
>> means make re-invoking itself, which could be avoided if the contents don't
>> really change. (This isn't just a performance concern; this re-invocation has
>> been the source of, well, surprising behavior in certain cases.)
> 
> Having thought about this some more, it needs to be FORCE and
> move-if-changed, or to express a dependency on Paths.mk

I said that already in the paragraph just after the part of my response you
cited.


Juergen

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-17 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-14 11:32 [PATCH v2 0/4] configure: reduce number of files created Juergen Gross
2025-11-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] build: add make macro for making file from file.in Juergen Gross
2025-11-14 11:42   ` Andrew Cooper
2025-11-14 12:54     ` Jürgen Groß
2025-11-17 12:24       ` Jan Beulich
2025-11-17 12:30         ` Andrew Cooper
2025-11-17 12:51           ` Jürgen Groß [this message]
2025-11-17 12:37         ` Jürgen Groß
2025-11-17 12:51           ` Jan Beulich
2025-11-17 13:03             ` Jürgen Groß
2025-11-17 12:29   ` Jan Beulich
2025-11-17 12:48     ` Jürgen Groß
2025-11-17 12:54       ` Jan Beulich
2025-11-17 13:10         ` Jürgen Groß
2025-11-17 14:05           ` Jan Beulich
2025-11-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] docs: replace @xxx@ markers at build time Juergen Gross
2025-11-14 11:40   ` Andrew Cooper
2025-11-14 13:00     ` Jürgen Groß
2025-11-17 12:33       ` Jan Beulich
2025-11-17 12:55         ` Jürgen Groß
2025-11-17 13:00           ` Jan Beulich
2025-11-17 13:17             ` Jürgen Groß
2025-11-17 14:06               ` Jan Beulich
2025-11-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] config: remove unused paths from config/Paths.mk.in Juergen Gross
2025-11-14 11:47   ` Andrew Cooper
2025-11-14 13:00     ` Jürgen Groß
2025-11-14 11:32 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] tools: replace @xxx@ markers at build time Juergen Gross
2025-11-14 11:54   ` Andrew Cooper
2025-11-14 13:03     ` Jürgen Groß

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