From: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/16] user_ns: use new hashtable implementation
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:40:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <502BA6B4.9020106@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120815033155.GA32653@Krystal>
On 08/15/2012 05:31 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org) wrote:
>> Sasha Levin <levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>>> On 08/15/2012 03:08 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>>> I can offer the following: I'll write a small module that will hash 1...10000
>>>>>> into a hashtable which uses 7 bits (just like user_ns) and post the distribution
>>>>>> we'll get.
>>>> That won't hurt. I think 1-100 then 1000-1100 may actually be more
>>>> representative. Not that I would mind seeing the larger range.
>>>> Especially since I am in the process of encouraging the use of more
>>>> uids.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Alrighty, the results are in (numbers are objects in bucket):
>>>
>>> For the 0...10000 range:
>>>
>>> Average: 78.125
>>> Std dev: 1.4197704151
>>> Min: 75
>>> Max: 80
>>>
>>>
>>> For the 1...100 range:
>>>
>>> Average: 0.78125
>>> Std dev: 0.5164613088
>>> Min: 0
>>> Max: 2
>>>
>>>
>>> For the 1000...1100 range:
>>>
>>> Average: 0.7890625
>>> Std dev: 0.4964812206
>>> Min: 0
>>> Max: 2
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like hash_32 is pretty good with small numbers.
>>
>> Yes hash_32 seems reasonable for the uid hash. With those long hash
>> chains I wouldn't like to be on a machine with 10,000 processes with
>> each with a different uid, and a processes calling setuid in the fast
>> path.
>>
>> The uid hash that we are playing with is one that I sort of wish that
>> the hash table could grow in size, so that we could scale up better.
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> If you want to try out something that has more features than a basic
> hash table, already exists and is available for you to play with, you
> might want to have a look at the RCU lock-free resizable hash table.
> It's initially done in userspace, but shares the same RCU semantic as
> the kernel, and has chunk-based kernel-friendly index backends (thanks
> to Lai Jiangshan), very useful to integrate with the kernel page
> allocator.
I'm guessing that once this static hashtable is stable, a
DEFINE_DYNAMIC_HASHTABLE() will get introduced which will evolve into something
similar to what Mathieu has pointed out in the urcu.
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From: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, tj@kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, paul.gortmaker@windriver.com,
davem@davemloft.net, rostedt@goodmis.org, mingo@elte.hu,
aarcange@redhat.com, ericvh@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/16] user_ns: use new hashtable implementation
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:40:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <502BA6B4.9020106@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120815033155.GA32653@Krystal>
On 08/15/2012 05:31 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com) wrote:
>> Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 08/15/2012 03:08 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>>> I can offer the following: I'll write a small module that will hash 1...10000
>>>>>> into a hashtable which uses 7 bits (just like user_ns) and post the distribution
>>>>>> we'll get.
>>>> That won't hurt. I think 1-100 then 1000-1100 may actually be more
>>>> representative. Not that I would mind seeing the larger range.
>>>> Especially since I am in the process of encouraging the use of more
>>>> uids.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Alrighty, the results are in (numbers are objects in bucket):
>>>
>>> For the 0...10000 range:
>>>
>>> Average: 78.125
>>> Std dev: 1.4197704151
>>> Min: 75
>>> Max: 80
>>>
>>>
>>> For the 1...100 range:
>>>
>>> Average: 0.78125
>>> Std dev: 0.5164613088
>>> Min: 0
>>> Max: 2
>>>
>>>
>>> For the 1000...1100 range:
>>>
>>> Average: 0.7890625
>>> Std dev: 0.4964812206
>>> Min: 0
>>> Max: 2
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like hash_32 is pretty good with small numbers.
>>
>> Yes hash_32 seems reasonable for the uid hash. With those long hash
>> chains I wouldn't like to be on a machine with 10,000 processes with
>> each with a different uid, and a processes calling setuid in the fast
>> path.
>>
>> The uid hash that we are playing with is one that I sort of wish that
>> the hash table could grow in size, so that we could scale up better.
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> If you want to try out something that has more features than a basic
> hash table, already exists and is available for you to play with, you
> might want to have a look at the RCU lock-free resizable hash table.
> It's initially done in userspace, but shares the same RCU semantic as
> the kernel, and has chunk-based kernel-friendly index backends (thanks
> to Lai Jiangshan), very useful to integrate with the kernel page
> allocator.
I'm guessing that once this static hashtable is stable, a
DEFINE_DYNAMIC_HASHTABLE() will get introduced which will evolve into something
similar to what Mathieu has pointed out in the urcu.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, tj@kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, paul.gortmaker@windriver.com,
davem@davemloft.net, rostedt@goodmis.org, mingo@elte.hu,
aarcange@redhat.com, ericvh@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
josh@joshtriplett.org, eric.dumazet@gmail.com, axboe@kernel.dk,
agk@redhat.com, dm-devel@redhat.com, neilb@suse.de,
ccaulfie@redhat.com, teigland@redhat.com,
Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com, bfields@fieldses.org,
fweisbec@gmail.com, jesse@nicira.com,
venkat.x.venkatsubra@oracle.com, ejt@redhat.com,
snitzer@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, dev@openvswitch.org,
rds-devel@oss.oracle.com, lw@cn.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/16] user_ns: use new hashtable implementation
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:40:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <502BA6B4.9020106@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120815033155.GA32653@Krystal>
On 08/15/2012 05:31 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@xmission.com) wrote:
>> Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 08/15/2012 03:08 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>>> I can offer the following: I'll write a small module that will hash 1...10000
>>>>>> into a hashtable which uses 7 bits (just like user_ns) and post the distribution
>>>>>> we'll get.
>>>> That won't hurt. I think 1-100 then 1000-1100 may actually be more
>>>> representative. Not that I would mind seeing the larger range.
>>>> Especially since I am in the process of encouraging the use of more
>>>> uids.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Alrighty, the results are in (numbers are objects in bucket):
>>>
>>> For the 0...10000 range:
>>>
>>> Average: 78.125
>>> Std dev: 1.4197704151
>>> Min: 75
>>> Max: 80
>>>
>>>
>>> For the 1...100 range:
>>>
>>> Average: 0.78125
>>> Std dev: 0.5164613088
>>> Min: 0
>>> Max: 2
>>>
>>>
>>> For the 1000...1100 range:
>>>
>>> Average: 0.7890625
>>> Std dev: 0.4964812206
>>> Min: 0
>>> Max: 2
>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like hash_32 is pretty good with small numbers.
>>
>> Yes hash_32 seems reasonable for the uid hash. With those long hash
>> chains I wouldn't like to be on a machine with 10,000 processes with
>> each with a different uid, and a processes calling setuid in the fast
>> path.
>>
>> The uid hash that we are playing with is one that I sort of wish that
>> the hash table could grow in size, so that we could scale up better.
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> If you want to try out something that has more features than a basic
> hash table, already exists and is available for you to play with, you
> might want to have a look at the RCU lock-free resizable hash table.
> It's initially done in userspace, but shares the same RCU semantic as
> the kernel, and has chunk-based kernel-friendly index backends (thanks
> to Lai Jiangshan), very useful to integrate with the kernel page
> allocator.
I'm guessing that once this static hashtable is stable, a
DEFINE_DYNAMIC_HASHTABLE() will get introduced which will evolve into something
similar to what Mathieu has pointed out in the urcu.
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2012-08-14 16:24 [PATCH 00/16] generic hashtable implementation Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 02/16] user_ns: use new " Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 23:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-08-14 23:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87txw5hw0s.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 0:47 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-15 0:47 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-15 0:47 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <502AF184.4010907-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 1:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-08-15 1:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-08-15 1:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-08-15 1:35 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-15 1:35 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <502AFCD5.6070104-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 3:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-08-15 3:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-08-15 3:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-08-15 3:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-08-15 3:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-08-15 13:40 ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2012-08-15 13:40 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-15 13:40 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <87obmchmpu.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 8:46 ` David Laight
2012-08-15 8:46 ` David Laight
2012-08-15 8:46 ` David Laight
[not found] ` <AE90C24D6B3A694183C094C60CF0A2F6026B6FB5-CgBM+Bx2aUAnGFn1LkZF6NBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-16 14:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-08-16 14:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-08-16 14:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-08-18 21:52 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-18 22:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 03/16] mm,ksm: " Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 07/16] net,9p: " Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1344961490-4068-1-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 01/16] hashtable: introduce a small and naive hashtable Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
[not found] ` <1344961490-4068-2-git-send-email-levinsasha928-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-14 23:25 ` NeilBrown
2012-08-14 23:25 ` NeilBrown
[not found] ` <20120815092523.00a909ef-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 0:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-15 0:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-15 0:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-15 0:28 ` Tejun Heo
2012-08-15 0:28 ` Tejun Heo
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 04/16] workqueue: use new hashtable implementation Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 05/16] mm/huge_memory: " Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 06/16] tracepoint: " Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 08/16] block, elevator: " Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 08/16] block,elevator: " Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 09/16] SUNRPC/cache: " Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 10/16] dlm: " Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 11/16] net, l2tp: " Sasha Levin
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2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 12/16] dm: " Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 13/16] lockd: " Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 15/16] openvswitch: " Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 16/16] tracing output: " Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` [PATCH 14/16] net,rds: " Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 16:24 ` Sasha Levin
2012-08-14 18:16 ` [PATCH 00/16] generic " J. Bruce Fields
2012-08-14 18:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
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2012-08-19 0:52 [PATCH v2 " Sasha Levin
2012-08-19 0:52 ` [PATCH 02/16] user_ns: use new " Sasha Levin
2012-08-19 0:52 ` Sasha Levin
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