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From: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	Serge Hallyn
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	Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
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	"Aneesh Kumar K.V"
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	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Paul Turner <pjt-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] cgroup TODOs
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:55:04 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5056E568.7070305@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120914151447.GD6221-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On 09/14/2012 07:14 PM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> Those who really need to implement % model, they will have to do heavy
> lifting in user space. I am skeptical that will take off but kernel
> does not prohibit from somebody creating a group, moving all tasks
> there and making sure tasks and groups are not at same level hence
> % becomes more predictable. Just that, that's not the default from
> kernel.
I subscribe to that.

I use a % model for memory / kernel memory (Give kernel 20 % of
userspace memory), but the kernel never knows about it. It only
understand megabytes. Of course this is simpler, because it is all
inside the same cgroup.

But if you want global %'s you need to calculate it from everybody
*anyway*, be it in the kernel or in userspace.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-09-17  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-13 20:58 [RFC] cgroup TODOs Tejun Heo
2012-09-13 20:58 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 11:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 12:54   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-09-14 12:54     ` Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found]     ` <20120914125427.GW6819-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14  8:55       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-14 17:53   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 17:53     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 17:53   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <20120913205827.GO7677-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14  8:16   ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <5052E7DF.7040000-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14  9:12       ` Li Zefan
2012-09-14  9:12         ` Li Zefan
     [not found]         ` <5052F4FF.6070508-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 11:22           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 11:22             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 17:59           ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 17:59             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20120914175944.GF17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 18:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 18:23                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 18:33                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 18:33                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 17:43       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 17:43         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20120914174329.GD17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17  8:50           ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-17  8:50           ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-17  8:50             ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]             ` <5056E467.2090108-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17 17:21               ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-17 17:21                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20120917172123.GB18677-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-18  8:16                   ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-14  9:04   ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-14  9:04     ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]     ` <1347613484.4340.132.camel-YqMYhexLQo31wTEvPJ5Q0F6hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 17:17       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 17:17         ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14  9:04   ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-14  9:10   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2012-09-14  9:10     ` Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found]     ` <20120914091032.GA6819-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14  9:08       ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-14 13:58       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-14 13:58         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <20120914135830.GB6221-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 19:29           ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 19:29             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20120914192935.GO17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 21:51               ` Kay Sievers
2012-09-14 21:51                 ` Kay Sievers
2012-09-14 11:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 14:25   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-14 14:25     ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <20120914142539.GC6221-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 14:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 14:53         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 15:14         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-14 15:14           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]           ` <20120914151447.GD6221-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 21:57             ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 21:57               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <20120914215701.GW17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17 15:27                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-17 15:27                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-18 18:08                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-18 18:08                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-17  8:55             ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-09-14 21:39       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 21:39         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20120914213938.GV17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17 15:05           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-17 15:05             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <20120917150518.GB5094-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17 16:40               ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-17 16:40                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 15:03   ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-14 15:03   ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-14 15:03     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <20120914150306.GQ28039-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-19 14:02       ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-19 14:02       ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-19 14:02         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <20120919140203.GA5398-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-19 14:03           ` [PATCH 2.6.32] memcg: warn on deeper hierarchies with use_hierarchy==0 Michal Hocko
2012-09-19 14:03             ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]             ` <20120919140308.GB5398-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-19 19:38               ` David Rientjes
2012-09-19 19:38                 ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                 ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1209191237020.749-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-20 13:24                   ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-20 13:24                     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                     ` <20120920132400.GC23872-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-20 22:33                       ` David Rientjes
2012-09-20 22:33                         ` David Rientjes
     [not found]                         ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1209201531250.17455-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-21  7:16                           ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-21  7:16                           ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-21  7:16                             ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-20 13:24                   ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-19 14:03           ` [PATCH 3.0] " Michal Hocko
2012-09-19 14:03             ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-19 14:05           ` [PATCH 3.2+] " Michal Hocko
2012-09-19 14:05             ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-19 14:05           ` Michal Hocko
2012-09-14 18:07   ` [RFC] cgroup TODOs Vivek Goyal
2012-09-14 18:07     ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <20120914180754.GF6221-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 18:53       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 18:53         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20120914185324.GI17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 19:28           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-14 19:28             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]             ` <20120914192840.GG6221-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 19:44               ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 19:44                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20120914194439.GP17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 19:49                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 19:49                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                     ` <20120914194950.GQ17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 20:39                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 20:39                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 20:39                         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                         ` <20120914203925.GR17747-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17  8:40                           ` Glauber Costa
2012-09-17  8:40                             ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                             ` <5056E1FC.1090508-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-17 17:30                               ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-17 17:30                                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-17 14:37                           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-17 14:37                             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-14 19:44               ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 18:36   ` Aristeu Rozanski
2012-09-14 18:36   ` Aristeu Rozanski
2012-09-14 18:36     ` Aristeu Rozanski
     [not found]     ` <20120914183641.GA2191-YqEmrenMroyQb786VAuzj9i2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 18:54       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 18:54         ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-15  2:20       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2012-09-15  2:20         ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]         ` <20120915022037.GA6438-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-15  9:27           ` Controlling devices and device namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-15  9:27             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87wqzv7i08.fsf_-_-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-15 22:05               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2012-09-15 22:05                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20120915220520.GA11364-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16  0:24                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-16  0:24                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <87y5kazuez.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16  3:31                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2012-09-16  3:31                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2012-09-16 11:21                       ` Alan Cox
2012-09-16 11:21                         ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                         ` <20120916122112.3f16178d-38n7/U1jhRXW96NNrWNlrekiAK3p4hvP@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 11:56                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-16 11:56                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                             ` <87sjaiuqp5.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 12:17                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-16 12:17                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                 ` <87d31mupp3.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 13:32                                   ` Serge Hallyn
2012-09-16 13:32                                     ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]                                     ` <5055D4D1.3070407-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 14:23                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-16 14:23                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                         ` <87k3vuqc5l.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 16:13                                           ` Alan Cox
2012-09-16 16:13                                             ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                             ` <20120916171316.517ad0fd-38n7/U1jhRXW96NNrWNlrekiAK3p4hvP@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 17:49                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-16 17:49                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-16 16:15                                           ` Serge Hallyn
2012-09-16 16:15                                             ` Serge Hallyn
     [not found]                                             ` <5055FB2A.1020103-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 16:53                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-16 16:53                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-16  8:19       ` [RFC] cgroup TODOs James Bottomley
2012-09-16  8:19       ` James Bottomley
2012-09-16  8:19         ` James Bottomley
     [not found]         ` <1347783557.2463.1.camel-sFMDBYUN5F8GjUHQrlYNx2Wm91YjaHnnhRte9Li2A+AAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-16 14:41           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-16 14:41           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-16 14:41             ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-09-17 13:21           ` Aristeu Rozanski
2012-09-17 13:21             ` Aristeu Rozanski
2012-09-14 22:03   ` Dhaval Giani
2012-09-14 22:03   ` Dhaval Giani
2012-09-14 22:03     ` Dhaval Giani
     [not found]     ` <CAPhKKr8wDLrcWHLTRq1M7gU_6CGNxzzF83zJo2WZ5vrY7h8Qyw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-14 22:06       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-14 22:06         ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-20  1:33   ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-20  1:33   ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-20  1:33     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <505A725B.2080901-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-20 18:26       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-20 18:26       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-20 18:26         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20120920182651.GH28934-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-09-20 18:39           ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-20 18:39             ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-20 18:39           ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-21 21:40   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-21 21:40   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-21 21:40     ` Tejun Heo

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