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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/19] mm: sched: numa: Implement constant, per task Working Set Sampling (WSS) rate
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:55:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50996B49.7070407@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1352193295-26815-19-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On 11/06/2012 04:14 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
>
> Note: The scan period is much larger than it was in the original patch.
> 	The reason was because the system CPU usage went through the roof
> 	with a sample period of 100ms but it was unsuitable to have a
> 	situation where a large process could stall for excessively long
> 	updating pte_numa. This may need to be tuned again if a placement
> 	policy converges too slowly.
>
> Previously, to probe the working set of a task, we'd use
> a very simple and crude method: mark all of its address
> space PROT_NONE.
>
> That method has various (obvious) disadvantages:
>
>   - it samples the working set at dissimilar rates,
>     giving some tasks a sampling quality advantage
>     over others.
>
>   - creates performance problems for tasks with very
>     large working sets
>
>   - over-samples processes with large address spaces but
>     which only very rarely execute
>
> Improve that method by keeping a rotating offset into the
> address space that marks the current position of the scan,
> and advance it by a constant rate (in a CPU cycles execution
> proportional manner). If the offset reaches the last mapped
> address of the mm then it then it starts over at the first
> address.
>
> The per-task nature of the working set sampling functionality in this tree
> allows such constant rate, per task, execution-weight proportional sampling
> of the working set, with an adaptive sampling interval/frequency that
> goes from once per 2 seconds up to just once per 32 seconds.  The current
> sampling volume is 256 MB per interval.
>
> As tasks mature and converge their working set, so does the
> sampling rate slow down to just a trickle, 256 MB per 8
> seconds of CPU time executed.
>
> This, beyond being adaptive, also rate-limits rarely
> executing systems and does not over-sample on overloaded
> systems.
>
> [ In AutoNUMA speak, this patch deals with the effective sampling
>    rate of the 'hinting page fault'. AutoNUMA's scanning is
>    currently rate-limited, but it is also fundamentally
>    single-threaded, executing in the knuma_scand kernel thread,
>    so the limit in AutoNUMA is global and does not scale up with
>    the number of CPUs, nor does it scan tasks in an execution
>    proportional manner.
>
>    So the idea of rate-limiting the scanning was first implemented
>    in the AutoNUMA tree via a global rate limit. This patch goes
>    beyond that by implementing an execution rate proportional
>    working set sampling rate that is not implemented via a single
>    global scanning daemon. ]
>
> [ Dan Carpenter pointed out a possible NULL pointer dereference in the
>    first version of this patch. ]
>
> Based-on-idea-by: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
> Bug-Found-By: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
> Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
> Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
> Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
> Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> [ Wrote changelog and fixed bug. ]
> Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>

Reviewed-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>

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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/19] mm: sched: numa: Implement constant, per task Working Set Sampling (WSS) rate
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 14:55:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50996B49.7070407@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1352193295-26815-19-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On 11/06/2012 04:14 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
>
> Note: The scan period is much larger than it was in the original patch.
> 	The reason was because the system CPU usage went through the roof
> 	with a sample period of 100ms but it was unsuitable to have a
> 	situation where a large process could stall for excessively long
> 	updating pte_numa. This may need to be tuned again if a placement
> 	policy converges too slowly.
>
> Previously, to probe the working set of a task, we'd use
> a very simple and crude method: mark all of its address
> space PROT_NONE.
>
> That method has various (obvious) disadvantages:
>
>   - it samples the working set at dissimilar rates,
>     giving some tasks a sampling quality advantage
>     over others.
>
>   - creates performance problems for tasks with very
>     large working sets
>
>   - over-samples processes with large address spaces but
>     which only very rarely execute
>
> Improve that method by keeping a rotating offset into the
> address space that marks the current position of the scan,
> and advance it by a constant rate (in a CPU cycles execution
> proportional manner). If the offset reaches the last mapped
> address of the mm then it then it starts over at the first
> address.
>
> The per-task nature of the working set sampling functionality in this tree
> allows such constant rate, per task, execution-weight proportional sampling
> of the working set, with an adaptive sampling interval/frequency that
> goes from once per 2 seconds up to just once per 32 seconds.  The current
> sampling volume is 256 MB per interval.
>
> As tasks mature and converge their working set, so does the
> sampling rate slow down to just a trickle, 256 MB per 8
> seconds of CPU time executed.
>
> This, beyond being adaptive, also rate-limits rarely
> executing systems and does not over-sample on overloaded
> systems.
>
> [ In AutoNUMA speak, this patch deals with the effective sampling
>    rate of the 'hinting page fault'. AutoNUMA's scanning is
>    currently rate-limited, but it is also fundamentally
>    single-threaded, executing in the knuma_scand kernel thread,
>    so the limit in AutoNUMA is global and does not scale up with
>    the number of CPUs, nor does it scan tasks in an execution
>    proportional manner.
>
>    So the idea of rate-limiting the scanning was first implemented
>    in the AutoNUMA tree via a global rate limit. This patch goes
>    beyond that by implementing an execution rate proportional
>    working set sampling rate that is not implemented via a single
>    global scanning daemon. ]
>
> [ Dan Carpenter pointed out a possible NULL pointer dereference in the
>    first version of this patch. ]
>
> Based-on-idea-by: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
> Bug-Found-By: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
> Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
> Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
> Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
> Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> [ Wrote changelog and fixed bug. ]
> Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>

Reviewed-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>


  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-06 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-06  9:14 [RFC PATCH 00/19] Foundation for automatic NUMA balancing Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14 ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 01/19] mm: compaction: Move migration fail/success stats to migrate.c Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 17:32   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06 17:32     ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 02/19] mm: migrate: Add a tracepoint for migrate_pages Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 17:33   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06 17:33     ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 03/19] mm: compaction: Add scanned and isolated counters for compaction Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 17:35   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06 17:35     ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 04/19] mm: numa: define _PAGE_NUMA Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 18:35   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06 18:35     ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 05/19] mm: numa: pte_numa() and pmd_numa() Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13  9:54   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13  9:54     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 11:24     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13 11:24       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 06/19] mm: numa: teach gup_fast about pmd_numa Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13 10:07   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 10:07     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 11:37     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13 11:37       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13 13:51       ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 13:51         ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 07/19] mm: numa: split_huge_page: transfer the NUMA type from the pmd to the pte Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 08/19] mm: numa: Create basic numa page hinting infrastructure Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 18:58   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06 18:58     ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-07 10:38     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-07 10:38       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-07 10:48       ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-07 10:48         ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-07 11:00         ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-07 11:00           ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13 10:21   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 10:21     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 11:50     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13 11:50       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13 13:49       ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 13:49         ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 14:26         ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13 14:26           ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 09/19] mm: mempolicy: Make MPOL_LOCAL a real policy Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 10/19] mm: mempolicy: Add MPOL_MF_NOOP Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 11/19] mm: mempolicy: Check for misplaced page Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 12/19] mm: migrate: Introduce migrate_misplaced_page() Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 19:10   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06 19:10     ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-13  9:36   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13  9:36     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 11:43     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 11:56       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13 11:56         ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13 14:49       ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-13 14:49         ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 13/19] mm: mempolicy: Use _PAGE_NUMA to migrate pages Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 19:18   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06 19:18     ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-07 12:32     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-07 12:32       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 14/19] mm: mempolicy: Add MPOL_MF_LAZY Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 19:19   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06 19:19     ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-13 10:25   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 10:25     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 12:02     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13 12:02       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 15/19] mm: numa: Add fault driven placement and migration Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 19:41   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06 19:41     ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-07 10:49     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-07 10:49       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-07 11:46       ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-07 11:46         ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-13 10:45   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 10:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 12:09     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13 12:09       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13 13:39       ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-13 13:39         ` Ingo Molnar
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 16/19] mm: numa: Add pte updates, hinting and migration stats Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 19:55   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06 19:55     ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-07 10:57     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-07 10:57       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-07 11:47       ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-07 11:47         ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 17/19] mm: numa: Migrate on reference policy Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-07 11:56   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-07 11:56     ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 18/19] mm: sched: numa: Implement constant, per task Working Set Sampling (WSS) rate Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 19:55   ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2012-11-06 19:55     ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06  9:14 ` [PATCH 19/19] mm: sched: numa: Implement slow start for working set sampling Mel Gorman
2012-11-06  9:14   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 19:56   ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-06 19:56     ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-07  9:27 ` [RFC PATCH 00/19] Foundation for automatic NUMA balancing Zhouping Liu
2012-11-07 15:25   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-07 15:25     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-08  6:37     ` Zhouping Liu
2012-11-08  6:37       ` Zhouping Liu
2012-11-08  6:39       ` 杨竹
2012-11-08  7:03         ` Zhouping Liu
2012-11-08  7:03           ` Zhouping Liu
2012-11-09 14:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-11-09 14:42   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-11-09 16:12   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-09 16:12     ` Mel Gorman

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