From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Cc: Pantelis Antoniou <panto@antoniou-consulting.com>,
Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
Deepak Saxena <dsaxena@linaro.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>,
Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>, Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>,
Matt Porter <mporter@ti.com>,
Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>, Russ Dill <Russ.Dill@ti.com>,
linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Device Tree Overlays Proposal (Was Re: capebus moving omap_devices to mach-omap2)
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 16:23:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <509D9089.7020407@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACxGe6v=+8UKerzp9z5cZo6TbXJQ4Nb=fpKgfkuvib_B-BoVdw@mail.gmail.com>
On 11/09/2012 09:28 AM, Grant Likely wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org> wrote:
...
>> I do rather suspect this use-case is quite common. NVIDIA certainly has
>> a bunch of development boards with pluggable
>> PMIC/audio/WiFi/display/..., and I believe there's some ability to
>> re-use the pluggable components with a variety of base-boards.
>>
>> Given people within NVIDIA started talking about this recently, I asked
>> them to enumerate all the boards we have that support pluggable
>> components, and how common it is that some boards support being plugged
>> into different main boards. I don't know when that enumeration will
>> complete (or even start) but hopefully I can provide some feedback on
>> how common the use-case is for us once it's done.
>
> From your perspective, is it important to use the exact same .dtb
> overlays for those add-on boards, or is it okay to have a separate
> build of the overlay for each base tree?
I certainly think it'd be extremely beneficial to use the exact same
child board .dtb with arbitrary base boards.
Consider something like the Arduino shield connector format, which I
/believe/ has been re-used across a wide variety of Arduino boards and
other compatible or imitation boards. Now consider a vendor of an
Arduino shield. The shield vendor probably wants to publish a single
.dtb file that works for users irrespective of which board they're using
it with.
(Well, I'm not sure that Arduino can run Linux; perhaps that's why you
picked BeagleBone capes for your document!)
I suppose it would be acceptable for the shield vendor to ship the .dts
file rather than the .dtb, and hence need to build the shield .dtb for a
specific base board.
However, I think the process for an end-user needs to be as simple as
"drop this .dts/.dtb file into some standard directory", and I imagine
it'll be much easier for distros/... to make that process work if
they're dealing with a .dtb that they can just blast into the kernel's
firmware loader interface, rather than having to also locate the
base-board .dts/.dtb file, and run dtc and/or other tools on both .dts
files together.
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2012-11-05 20:40 [RFC] Device Tree Overlays Proposal (Was Re: capebus moving omap_devices to mach-omap2) Grant Likely
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2012-11-05 21:40 ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-11-05 21:40 ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2012-11-05 23:22 ` Tony Lindgren
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2012-11-09 12:06 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09 12:06 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-06 0:07 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-06 10:31 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 22:35 ` Ryan Mallon
2012-11-08 13:28 ` Koen Kooi
2012-11-08 14:09 ` Timur Tabi
2012-11-08 17:00 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-06 22:37 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-06 22:37 ` Stephen Warren
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2012-11-07 0:54 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-07 0:54 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-09 17:02 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 11:29 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 8:47 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 17:18 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <509A97D0.5010006-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-07 22:08 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 22:08 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-09 16:28 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-09 23:23 ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2012-11-09 23:40 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 10:53 ` Koen Kooi
[not found] ` <509D9089.7020407-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-12 12:10 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 12:10 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 16:52 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13 7:25 ` David Gibson
[not found] ` <20121113072517.GE25915-W9XWwYn+TF0XU02nzanrWNbf9cGiqdzd@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-13 8:09 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13 8:09 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13 12:24 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <CACxGe6vQxmAk_joUYbaXw4r8J3_RbQt22zFg84ANvcw+ycCMHg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-13 13:38 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13 13:38 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-15 4:57 ` David Gibson
2012-11-13 17:10 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <BD20AE03-C138-4BC6-AE02-F162AF6840B2-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-13 23:30 ` David Gibson
2012-11-13 23:30 ` David Gibson
2012-11-14 0:00 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13 16:57 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <50A27BF1.4030502-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-13 18:10 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-13 18:10 ` Mitch Bradley
[not found] ` <50A28D03.7050002-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-13 18:29 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13 18:29 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-13 19:09 ` Mitch Bradley
2012-11-13 19:11 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-17 22:27 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-11-20 17:09 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-11 20:47 ` Rob Landley
2012-11-12 12:50 ` Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <ABAD0875-A618-405D-954F-CD76F09DDF04-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-12 16:54 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 16:54 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 11:23 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 16:49 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 17:00 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 17:10 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 17:19 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 17:29 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 17:38 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 20:16 ` Russ Dill
2012-11-12 16:45 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-12 11:03 ` Koen Kooi
2012-11-12 11:03 ` Koen Kooi
2012-11-06 10:30 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-06 11:14 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-06 18:35 ` Tony Lindgren
2012-11-06 19:29 ` Russ Dill
[not found] ` <CA+Bv8XZOt7h3dtDsk1SaR71J3tYFOTsPJSjZLSP3RVuLdYdFDg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 19:41 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-06 19:41 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-06 22:17 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-06 22:17 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-06 19:34 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-06 20:45 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-06 20:50 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-07 8:06 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 15:33 ` Alan Tull
2012-11-07 15:33 ` Alan Tull
2012-11-09 17:03 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-07 8:13 ` Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <5ED17D42-07B8-4D4F-B54F-82B4CC60584C-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-07 10:19 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-11-07 10:19 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-11-07 11:02 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 11:02 ` Pantelis Antoniou
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2012-11-07 11:12 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-11-07 11:12 ` Benoit Cousson
2012-11-07 11:23 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 11:23 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-09 20:33 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 11:34 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 13:01 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-07 17:25 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <509A9984.3000709-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-07 22:10 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-07 22:10 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-08 10:36 ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-11-08 10:36 ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-11-09 5:32 ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-09 14:29 ` David Gibson
2012-11-10 3:15 ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-09 21:22 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <CACxGe6vL9gbAKyDWcZWWAQ4WO=nTgdAioXS-h2e1jtJK9pmZUg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-12 11:47 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-12 11:47 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13 3:59 ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-09 22:59 ` Stephen Warren
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[not found] ` <559B8433-67C3-4A1A-A5D6-859907655176@antoniou-consulting.com>
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2012-11-10 3:36 ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-10 3:36 ` Joel A Fernandes
2012-11-12 12:48 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2012-11-13 2:28 ` David Gibson
2012-11-09 2:26 ` David Gibson
2012-11-09 15:40 ` Pantelis Antoniou
[not found] ` <A97699E9-6C57-4A56-BC45-86A57CF2496F-wVdstyuyKrO8r51toPun2/C9HSW9iNxf@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-13 0:03 ` David Gibson
2012-11-13 0:03 ` David Gibson
2012-11-09 21:08 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <CACxGe6v7q2=Dxn6BE_V-w9CEKxAsZ6zQd5Uqm4TeYGYCCu76cg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-13 0:05 ` David Gibson
2012-11-13 0:05 ` David Gibson
2012-11-09 21:42 ` Grant Likely
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2012-11-13 1:05 ` David Gibson
2012-11-13 1:05 ` David Gibson
2012-11-13 5:22 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <50A1D8FF.7060104-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-13 6:54 ` David Gibson
2012-11-13 6:54 ` David Gibson
2012-11-09 22:57 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09 23:27 ` Grant Likely
2012-11-12 12:05 ` Pantelis Antoniou
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2012-11-09 23:14 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09 23:14 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09 23:06 ` Stephen Warren
2012-11-09 23:32 ` Grant Likely
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