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From: Yasuaki Ishimatsu <isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"jiang.liu@huawei.com" <jiang.liu@huawei.com>,
	"wujianguo@huawei.com" <wujianguo@huawei.com>,
	"wency@cn.fujitsu.com" <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"laijs@cn.fujitsu.com" <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com" <linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"yinghai@kernel.org" <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	"rob@landley.net" <rob@landley.net>,
	"kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"minchan.kim@gmail.com" <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	"mgorman@suse.de" <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"rientjes@google.com" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"guz.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com" <guz.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"rusty@rustcorp.com.au" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"lliubbo@gmail.com" <lliubbo@gmail.com>,
	"jaegeuk.hanse@gmail.com" <jaegeuk.hanse@gmail.com>,
	"glommer@parallels.com" <glommer@parallels.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/5] Add movablecore_map boot option
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:23:20 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50F4AF88.9090201@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F1C97C2DA@ORSMSX108.amr.corp.intel.com>

2013/01/15 7:41, Luck, Tony wrote:
>> hm, why.  Obviously SRAT support will improve things, but is it
>> actually unusable/unuseful with the command line configuration?
>

> Users will want to set these moveable zones along node boundaries
> (the whole purpose is to be able to remove a node by making sure
> the kernel won't allocate anything tricky in it, right?)

Yes

> So raw addresses
> are usable ... but to get them right the user will have to go parse the
> SRAT table manually to come up with the addresses.

I don't think so because user can easily get raw address by kernel
message in x86.

Here are kernel messages of x86 architecture.
---
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 0 PXM 0 [mem 0x00000000-0x7fffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 0 PXM 0 [mem 0x100000000-0x7ffffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 1 PXM 2 [mem 0x1000000000-0x17ffffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 2 PXM 3 [mem 0x1800000000-0x1fffffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 3 PXM 4 [mem 0x2000000000-0x27ffffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 4 PXM 5 [mem 0x2800000000-0x2fffffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 5 PXM 6 [mem 0x3000000000-0x37ffffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 6 PXM 7 [mem 0x3800000000-0x3fffffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 7 PXM 1 [mem 0x800000000-0xfffffffff]
---

Thanks,
Yasuaki Ishimatsu

> Any time you
> make the user go off and do some tedious calculation that the computer
> should have done for them is user-abuse.
>
> -Tony
>


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From: Yasuaki Ishimatsu <isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"jiang.liu@huawei.com" <jiang.liu@huawei.com>,
	"wujianguo@huawei.com" <wujianguo@huawei.com>,
	"wency@cn.fujitsu.com" <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"laijs@cn.fujitsu.com" <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com" <linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"yinghai@kernel.org" <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	"rob@landley.net" <rob@landley.net>,
	"kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"minchan.kim@gmail.com" <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	"mgorman@suse.de" <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"rientjes@google.com" <rientjes@google.com>,
	"guz.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com" <guz.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"rusty@rustcorp.com.au" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	"lliubbo@gmail.com" <lliubbo@gmail.com>,
	"jaegeuk.hanse@gmail.com" <jaegeuk.hanse@gmail.com>,
	"glommer@parallels.com" <glommer@parallels.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/5] Add movablecore_map boot option
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 10:23:20 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50F4AF88.9090201@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F1C97C2DA@ORSMSX108.amr.corp.intel.com>

2013/01/15 7:41, Luck, Tony wrote:
>> hm, why.  Obviously SRAT support will improve things, but is it
>> actually unusable/unuseful with the command line configuration?
>

> Users will want to set these moveable zones along node boundaries
> (the whole purpose is to be able to remove a node by making sure
> the kernel won't allocate anything tricky in it, right?)

Yes

> So raw addresses
> are usable ... but to get them right the user will have to go parse the
> SRAT table manually to come up with the addresses.

I don't think so because user can easily get raw address by kernel
message in x86.

Here are kernel messages of x86 architecture.
---
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 0 PXM 0 [mem 0x00000000-0x7fffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 0 PXM 0 [mem 0x100000000-0x7ffffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 1 PXM 2 [mem 0x1000000000-0x17ffffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 2 PXM 3 [mem 0x1800000000-0x1fffffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 3 PXM 4 [mem 0x2000000000-0x27ffffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 4 PXM 5 [mem 0x2800000000-0x2fffffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 5 PXM 6 [mem 0x3000000000-0x37ffffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 6 PXM 7 [mem 0x3800000000-0x3fffffffff]
[    0.000000] SRAT: Node 7 PXM 1 [mem 0x800000000-0xfffffffff]
---

Thanks,
Yasuaki Ishimatsu

> Any time you
> make the user go off and do some tedious calculation that the computer
> should have done for them is user-abuse.
>
> -Tony
>



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-15  1:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-14  9:15 [PATCH v5 0/5] Add movablecore_map boot option Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15 ` Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] x86: get pg_data_t's memory from other node Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15   ` Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] page_alloc: add movable_memmap kernel parameter Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15   ` Tang Chen
2013-01-14 22:35   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-14 22:35     ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] page_alloc: Introduce zone_movable_limit[] to keep movable limit for nodes Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15   ` Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] page_alloc: Make movablecore_map has higher priority Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15   ` Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] page_alloc: Bootmem limit with movablecore_map Tang Chen
2013-01-14  9:15   ` Tang Chen
2013-01-14 17:31 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] Add movablecore_map boot option H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-14 17:31   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-14 22:34   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-14 22:34     ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-14 22:41     ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-14 22:41       ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-14 22:46       ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16  6:25         ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-16  6:25           ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-16 21:29           ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16 21:29             ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16 22:01             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-16 22:01               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-16 23:00               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-16 23:00                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-17 20:27                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-17 20:27                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-16 22:52             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-16 22:52               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-17  1:49               ` Tang Chen
2013-01-17  1:49                 ` Tang Chen
2013-01-17 20:20                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-17 20:20                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-17  5:08               ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-17  5:08                 ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-17  6:03                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-17  6:03                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-17 16:30                   ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-17 16:30                     ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-17 20:28                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-17 20:28                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-01-18  6:05                       ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-18  6:05                         ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-18  6:25                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-18  6:25                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-18  7:38                           ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-18  7:38                             ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-18  8:08                             ` Tang Chen
2013-01-18  8:08                               ` Tang Chen
2013-01-18  9:23                               ` li guang
2013-01-18  9:23                                 ` li guang
2013-01-18 18:29                                 ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-18 18:29                                   ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-19  1:06                                   ` Jiang Liu
2013-01-19  7:52                                     ` Chen Gong
2013-01-21  7:36                                   ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-15  1:23       ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu [this message]
2013-01-15  1:23         ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2013-01-15  3:44         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-15  3:44           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-15  4:04           ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-15  4:04             ` Luck, Tony
2013-01-15  0:05     ` Toshi Kani
2013-01-15  0:05       ` Toshi Kani

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