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Subject: Re: How to facilitate the cpuidle drivers to go to the same direction (Was: Re: [PATCH 4/9] ARM: OMAP4: cpuidle: fix wrong driver initialization)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:35:59 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <515923C7.8040408@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5155B85F.6030808-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
On 03/29/2013 09:20 PM, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> On 03/29/2013 04:10 PM, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
>> On Friday 29 March 2013 06:20 PM, Amit Kucheria wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Santosh Shilimkar
>>> <santosh.shilimkar-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>> On Friday 29 March 2013 05:26 PM, Amit Kucheria wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Daniel Lezcano
>>>>> <daniel.lezcano-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/29/2013 11:38 AM, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday 29 March 2013 04:01 PM, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>>>>>> The driver is initialized several times. This is wrong and if the
>>>>>>>> return code of the function was checked, it will return -EINVAL.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Move this initialization out of the loop.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Fix for this is already and v2 of the patch is here [1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, ok. Thanks for reviewing the patch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can we find a solution to have a single entry point to sumbit patches
>>>>>> for all the cpuidle drivers ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise, consolidating them is a pain: a patch for the samsung tree,
>>>>>> another one for the at91 tree, etc ... and wait for all the trees to
>>>>>> sync before continuing to consolidate the code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wouldn't be worth to move these drivers under the PM umbrella instead of
>>>>>> the SoC specific code ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any idea to simplify the cpuidle consolidation and maintenance ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Adding Arnd and Olof to this discussion since atleast the ARM drivers
>>>>> go through their arm-soc tree.
>>>>>
>>>>> Given the work you're putting in to consolidate the drivers, perhaps
>>>>> they can insist that idle drivers get acked by you?
>>>>>
>>>> Not to create controversy but as a general rule there is nothing
>>>> like *insisting* ack on patches for merge apart from the official
>>>> maintainers(gate keepers).
>>>>
>>>> Having said that, its always good to get more reviews and acks so
>>>> that better code gets merged.
>>>>
>>>> This just my personal opinion.
>>>
>>> I'm not asking for special treatment here. :) I'm requesting one set
>>> of maintainers (arm-soc maintainers) to push back on changes that
>>> don't get platform idle drivers in sync with the consolidation work
>>> that is currently ongoing.
>>>
>>> This will speed up the process since it is hard to track every
>>> SoC-specific list for these changes. Some platform maintainers might
>>> not even be aware of it (those that Daniel hasn't modified yet). A
>>> similar approach seems to have worked for common clock, DT, pinmux,
>>> etc.
>>>
>> Every patch gets pulled into arm-soc/arm-core has to be posted on
>> LAKML. So as long as everybody follows that rule, there is no need to
>> track every SoC lists. And what I have seen so far every this rule
>> has been followed well.
>
> (Added Benjamin, Deepthi and Paul)
>
> I don't think everybody is following this rule, patches go to the SoC
> maintainer's tree without sometimes going through lakml.
>
> Furthermore, there is not only ARM, there is also acpi_idle, intel_idle,
> pseries_idle and sh_idle, respectively located in:
>
> drivers/acpi/processor_idle.c
> drivers/acpi/processor_driver.c
> drivers/idle/intel_idle.c
>
> These ones above are under linux-pm, that is Rafael, like cpuidle, even
> if it is not marked in the MAINTAINERS file, so that should be ok.
>
> And there is also:
>
> arch/sh/kernel/cpu/shmobile/cpuidle.c
> arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/processor_idle.c
>
> And hopefully, some others in the right place, calxeda_idle and
> kirwood_idle located in drivers/cpuidle.
>
> In the maintainer file, there is no information about cpuidle at all.
>
> For example, if someone modify the cpuidle framework allowing to
> consolidate the code across the different drivers, we have to wait for
> the merge before using the new api into the different drivers.
> If we follow strictly the path of the merge tree we fall into a scenario
> where consolidating the drivers takes a loooooong time.
>
> From my POV, *all* the cpuidle drivers must go under drivers/cpuidle,
> like cpufreq and pass through a single entry point to apply the patches,
> so the cpuidle framework and the drivers are always synced.
I can very much relate to the above mentioned problem, where code
modifications done as a part of cpuidle framework needs to be
reflected in every arch back-end cpuidle driver.
We do have added advantages in moving
all the back-end drivers into drivers/cpuidle.
This would help us achieve better reviews, easier consolidations
and more importantly maintaining sync btw drivers and framework and
the up-streaming process.
But then, this means we get all the
arch specific code out under drivers/cpuidle
which can be very messy. Also instances where the changes
are specifically tied only to the architecture of the back-end driver
(SoC specific), it is absolutely necessary to get SoC maintainer's review.
Cheers,
Deepthi
> If everyone agree and we reach this consensus, then we can work to move
> these drivers to a single place.
>
> I think Amit was suggesting to Cc me in the meantime, so while we are
> moving these drivers to this place, I can help to ensure we go to the
> same direction.
>
> For example, Arnd Cc'ed me about the zynq cpuidle driver when it has
> been posted and, after review, it appeared it was totally obsolete wrt
> the modifications we did this year.
>
> I propose first to add an entry in MAINTAINERS:
>
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index 4cf5fd3..5b5ab87 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -2206,6 +2206,15 @@ S: Maintained
> F: drivers/cpufreq/
> F: include/linux/cpufreq.h
>
> +CPU IDLE DRIVERS
> +M: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
> +L: cpuidle-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
> +L: linux-pm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
> +S: Maintained
> +F: drivers/cpuidle/
> +F: include/linux/cpuidle.h
> +
> CPUID/MSR DRIVER
> M: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> S: Maintained
>
> Does it make sense ?
>
> Thanks
> -- Daniel
>
>
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: deepthi@linux.vnet.ibm.com (Deepthi Dharwar)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: How to facilitate the cpuidle drivers to go to the same direction (Was: Re: [PATCH 4/9] ARM: OMAP4: cpuidle: fix wrong driver initialization)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 11:35:59 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <515923C7.8040408@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5155B85F.6030808@linaro.org>
On 03/29/2013 09:20 PM, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> On 03/29/2013 04:10 PM, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
>> On Friday 29 March 2013 06:20 PM, Amit Kucheria wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Santosh Shilimkar
>>> <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com> wrote:
>>>> On Friday 29 March 2013 05:26 PM, Amit Kucheria wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Daniel Lezcano
>>>>> <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/29/2013 11:38 AM, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday 29 March 2013 04:01 PM, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
>>>>>>>> The driver is initialized several times. This is wrong and if the
>>>>>>>> return code of the function was checked, it will return -EINVAL.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Move this initialization out of the loop.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Fix for this is already and v2 of the patch is here [1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, ok. Thanks for reviewing the patch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can we find a solution to have a single entry point to sumbit patches
>>>>>> for all the cpuidle drivers ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise, consolidating them is a pain: a patch for the samsung tree,
>>>>>> another one for the at91 tree, etc ... and wait for all the trees to
>>>>>> sync before continuing to consolidate the code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wouldn't be worth to move these drivers under the PM umbrella instead of
>>>>>> the SoC specific code ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any idea to simplify the cpuidle consolidation and maintenance ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Adding Arnd and Olof to this discussion since atleast the ARM drivers
>>>>> go through their arm-soc tree.
>>>>>
>>>>> Given the work you're putting in to consolidate the drivers, perhaps
>>>>> they can insist that idle drivers get acked by you?
>>>>>
>>>> Not to create controversy but as a general rule there is nothing
>>>> like *insisting* ack on patches for merge apart from the official
>>>> maintainers(gate keepers).
>>>>
>>>> Having said that, its always good to get more reviews and acks so
>>>> that better code gets merged.
>>>>
>>>> This just my personal opinion.
>>>
>>> I'm not asking for special treatment here. :) I'm requesting one set
>>> of maintainers (arm-soc maintainers) to push back on changes that
>>> don't get platform idle drivers in sync with the consolidation work
>>> that is currently ongoing.
>>>
>>> This will speed up the process since it is hard to track every
>>> SoC-specific list for these changes. Some platform maintainers might
>>> not even be aware of it (those that Daniel hasn't modified yet). A
>>> similar approach seems to have worked for common clock, DT, pinmux,
>>> etc.
>>>
>> Every patch gets pulled into arm-soc/arm-core has to be posted on
>> LAKML. So as long as everybody follows that rule, there is no need to
>> track every SoC lists. And what I have seen so far every this rule
>> has been followed well.
>
> (Added Benjamin, Deepthi and Paul)
>
> I don't think everybody is following this rule, patches go to the SoC
> maintainer's tree without sometimes going through lakml.
>
> Furthermore, there is not only ARM, there is also acpi_idle, intel_idle,
> pseries_idle and sh_idle, respectively located in:
>
> drivers/acpi/processor_idle.c
> drivers/acpi/processor_driver.c
> drivers/idle/intel_idle.c
>
> These ones above are under linux-pm, that is Rafael, like cpuidle, even
> if it is not marked in the MAINTAINERS file, so that should be ok.
>
> And there is also:
>
> arch/sh/kernel/cpu/shmobile/cpuidle.c
> arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/processor_idle.c
>
> And hopefully, some others in the right place, calxeda_idle and
> kirwood_idle located in drivers/cpuidle.
>
> In the maintainer file, there is no information about cpuidle at all.
>
> For example, if someone modify the cpuidle framework allowing to
> consolidate the code across the different drivers, we have to wait for
> the merge before using the new api into the different drivers.
> If we follow strictly the path of the merge tree we fall into a scenario
> where consolidating the drivers takes a loooooong time.
>
> From my POV, *all* the cpuidle drivers must go under drivers/cpuidle,
> like cpufreq and pass through a single entry point to apply the patches,
> so the cpuidle framework and the drivers are always synced.
I can very much relate to the above mentioned problem, where code
modifications done as a part of cpuidle framework needs to be
reflected in every arch back-end cpuidle driver.
We do have added advantages in moving
all the back-end drivers into drivers/cpuidle.
This would help us achieve better reviews, easier consolidations
and more importantly maintaining sync btw drivers and framework and
the up-streaming process.
But then, this means we get all the
arch specific code out under drivers/cpuidle
which can be very messy. Also instances where the changes
are specifically tied only to the architecture of the back-end driver
(SoC specific), it is absolutely necessary to get SoC maintainer's review.
Cheers,
Deepthi
> If everyone agree and we reach this consensus, then we can work to move
> these drivers to a single place.
>
> I think Amit was suggesting to Cc me in the meantime, so while we are
> moving these drivers to this place, I can help to ensure we go to the
> same direction.
>
> For example, Arnd Cc'ed me about the zynq cpuidle driver when it has
> been posted and, after review, it appeared it was totally obsolete wrt
> the modifications we did this year.
>
> I propose first to add an entry in MAINTAINERS:
>
> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
> index 4cf5fd3..5b5ab87 100644
> --- a/MAINTAINERS
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
> @@ -2206,6 +2206,15 @@ S: Maintained
> F: drivers/cpufreq/
> F: include/linux/cpufreq.h
>
> +CPU IDLE DRIVERS
> +M: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> +L: cpuidle at vger.kernel.org
> +L: linux-pm at vger.kernel.org
> +S: Maintained
> +F: drivers/cpuidle/
> +F: include/linux/cpuidle.h
> +
> CPUID/MSR DRIVER
> M: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
> S: Maintained
>
> Does it make sense ?
>
> Thanks
> -- Daniel
>
>
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-29 10:31 [PATCH 1/9] ARM: cpuidle: remove useless declaration Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:31 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:31 ` [PATCH 2/9] ARM: shmobile: pm: fix init sections Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:31 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:31 ` [PATCH 3/9] ARM: shmobile: cpuidle: remove useless WFI function Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:31 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:31 ` [PATCH 5/9] ARM: tegra2: cpuidle: change driver initialization Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:31 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 16:02 ` Stephen Warren
2013-03-29 16:02 ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-03 11:18 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-04-03 11:18 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <515C101F.1020801-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-03 11:23 ` Joseph Lo
2013-04-03 11:23 ` Joseph Lo
[not found] ` <1364988239.16957.78.camel-yx3yKKdKkHfc7b1ADBJPm0n48jw8i0AO@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-03 12:09 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-04-03 12:09 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <1364553095-25110-5-git-send-email-daniel.lezcano-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-30 2:22 ` Joseph Lo
2013-03-30 2:22 ` Joseph Lo
2013-04-03 16:51 ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-03 16:51 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <1364553095-25110-1-git-send-email-daniel.lezcano-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-29 10:31 ` [PATCH 4/9] ARM: OMAP4: cpuidle: fix wrong " Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:31 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <1364553095-25110-4-git-send-email-daniel.lezcano-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-29 10:38 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-29 10:38 ` Santosh Shilimkar
[not found] ` <51556F1D.5030208-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-29 10:45 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:45 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <515570DF.5010608-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-29 10:53 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-29 10:53 ` Santosh Shilimkar
[not found] ` <515572C7.1030309-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-29 11:23 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 11:23 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <515579C6.1090602-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-29 11:31 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-29 11:31 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-29 11:56 ` Amit Kucheria
2013-03-29 11:56 ` Amit Kucheria
2013-03-29 12:20 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-29 12:20 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-29 12:50 ` Amit Kucheria
2013-03-29 12:50 ` Amit Kucheria
[not found] ` <CAP245DWAAgQ4co34mdkFgepC5kP9v0n6B954ej2X_y20LE9kSQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-29 15:10 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-29 15:10 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-29 15:50 ` How to facilitate the cpuidle drivers to go to the same direction (Was: Re: [PATCH 4/9] ARM: OMAP4: cpuidle: fix wrong driver initialization) Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 15:50 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-31 11:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-03-31 11:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <5155B85F.6030808-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 6:05 ` Deepthi Dharwar [this message]
2013-04-01 6:05 ` Deepthi Dharwar
[not found] ` <515923C7.8040408-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 8:26 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-04-01 8:26 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-04-01 8:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-04-01 8:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-04-02 18:37 ` Olof Johansson
2013-04-02 18:37 ` Olof Johansson
2013-03-29 10:31 ` [PATCH 6/9] ARM: tegra: cpuidle: remove useless initialization Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:31 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:31 ` [PATCH 7/9] ARM: davinci: cpuidle: fix wrong enter function Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:31 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <1364553095-25110-7-git-send-email-daniel.lezcano-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-29 11:36 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-29 11:36 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-29 10:31 ` [PATCH 8/9] intel: cpuidle: remove stop/start critical timings Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:31 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:31 ` [PATCH 9/9] ARM: omap3: cpuidle: enable time keeping Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 10:31 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 11:35 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-29 11:35 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-29 11:40 ` [PATCH 1/9] ARM: cpuidle: remove useless declaration Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-29 11:40 ` Santosh Shilimkar
[not found] ` <51557DC6.5060104-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-29 11:53 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-03-29 11:53 ` Daniel Lezcano
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