From: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david-FqsqvQoI3Ljby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Andrew Morton
<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org,
Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Dave Chinner <dchinner-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 12/31] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node aware
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 19:27:26 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5193A95E.70205@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130514095200.GI29466@dastard>
On 05/14/2013 01:52 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> kswapd0-632 1210443.469309: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 600456 delta 1363 total_scan 300228
> kswapd3-635 1210443.510311: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 514885 delta 1250 total_scan 101025
> kswapd1-633 1210443.517440: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 613824 delta 1357 total_scan 97727
> kswapd2-634 1210443.527026: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 568610 delta 1331 total_scan 259185
> kswapd3-635 1210443.573165: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 486408 delta 1277 total_scan 243204
> kswapd1-633 1210443.697012: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 550827 delta 1224 total_scan 82231
>
> in the space of 230ms, I can see why the caches are getting
> completely emptied. kswapds are making multiple, large scale scan
> passes on the caches. Looks like our problem is an impedence
> mismatch: global windup counter, per-node cache scan calculations.
>
> So, that's the mess we really need to cleaning up before going much
> further with this patchset. We need stable behaviour from the
> shrinkers - I'll look into this a bit deeper tomorrow.
That doesn't totally make sense to me.
Both our scan and count functions will be per-node now. This means we
will always try to keep ourselves within reasonable maximums on a
per-node basis as well.
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From: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david-FqsqvQoI3Ljby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
<linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
<cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Andrew Morton
<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
<kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
<linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Dave Chinner <dchinner-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 12/31] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node aware
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 19:27:26 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5193A95E.70205@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130514095200.GI29466@dastard>
On 05/14/2013 01:52 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> kswapd0-632 1210443.469309: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 600456 delta 1363 total_scan 300228
> kswapd3-635 1210443.510311: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 514885 delta 1250 total_scan 101025
> kswapd1-633 1210443.517440: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 613824 delta 1357 total_scan 97727
> kswapd2-634 1210443.527026: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 568610 delta 1331 total_scan 259185
> kswapd3-635 1210443.573165: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 486408 delta 1277 total_scan 243204
> kswapd1-633 1210443.697012: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 550827 delta 1224 total_scan 82231
>
> in the space of 230ms, I can see why the caches are getting
> completely emptied. kswapds are making multiple, large scale scan
> passes on the caches. Looks like our problem is an impedence
> mismatch: global windup counter, per-node cache scan calculations.
>
> So, that's the mess we really need to cleaning up before going much
> further with this patchset. We need stable behaviour from the
> shrinkers - I'll look into this a bit deeper tomorrow.
That doesn't totally make sense to me.
Both our scan and count functions will be per-node now. This means we
will always try to keep ourselves within reasonable maximums on a
per-node basis as well.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@openvz.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 12/31] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node aware
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 19:27:26 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5193A95E.70205@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130514095200.GI29466@dastard>
On 05/14/2013 01:52 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> kswapd0-632 1210443.469309: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 600456 delta 1363 total_scan 300228
> kswapd3-635 1210443.510311: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 514885 delta 1250 total_scan 101025
> kswapd1-633 1210443.517440: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 613824 delta 1357 total_scan 97727
> kswapd2-634 1210443.527026: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 568610 delta 1331 total_scan 259185
> kswapd3-635 1210443.573165: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 486408 delta 1277 total_scan 243204
> kswapd1-633 1210443.697012: mm_shrink_slab_start: cache items 550827 delta 1224 total_scan 82231
>
> in the space of 230ms, I can see why the caches are getting
> completely emptied. kswapds are making multiple, large scale scan
> passes on the caches. Looks like our problem is an impedence
> mismatch: global windup counter, per-node cache scan calculations.
>
> So, that's the mess we really need to cleaning up before going much
> further with this patchset. We need stable behaviour from the
> shrinkers - I'll look into this a bit deeper tomorrow.
That doesn't totally make sense to me.
Both our scan and count functions will be per-node now. This means we
will always try to keep ourselves within reasonable maximums on a
per-node basis as well.
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2013-05-12 18:13 [PATCH v6 00/31] kmemcg shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 01/31] super: fix calculation of shrinkable objects for small numbers Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 02/31] dcache: convert dentry_stat.nr_unused to per-cpu counters Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 03/31] dentry: move to per-sb LRU locks Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 04/31] dcache: remove dentries from LRU before putting on dispose list Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-14 2:02 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-14 5:46 ` [PATCH v7 " Dave Chinner
2013-05-14 7:10 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-14 12:43 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-14 12:43 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-14 12:43 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <51923158.7040002-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-14 20:32 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-14 20:32 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 05/31] mm: new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 06/31] shrinker: convert superblock shrinkers to new API Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 07/31] list: add a new LRU list type Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-13 9:25 ` Mel Gorman
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 08/31] inode: convert inode lru list to generic lru list code Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 09/31] dcache: convert to use new lru list infrastructure Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1368382432-25462-10-git-send-email-glommer-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-14 6:59 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-14 6:59 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-14 7:50 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-14 7:50 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-14 14:01 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-14 14:01 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-14 14:01 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 10/31] list_lru: per-node " Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 11/31] shrinker: add node awareness Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 12/31] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node aware Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1368382432-25462-13-git-send-email-glommer-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-14 9:52 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-14 9:52 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-15 15:27 ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2013-05-15 15:27 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-15 15:27 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-16 0:02 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-16 8:03 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-16 8:03 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-16 8:03 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-16 19:14 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-16 19:14 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-17 0:51 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-17 7:29 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-17 7:29 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <5195DC59.8000205-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-17 14:49 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-17 14:49 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-17 14:49 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <51964381.8010406-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-17 22:54 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-17 22:54 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-17 22:54 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-18 3:39 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-18 7:20 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-18 7:20 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-18 7:20 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 13/31] xfs: convert buftarg LRU to generic code Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 14/31] xfs: convert dquot cache lru to list_lru Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 15/31] fs: convert fs shrinkers to new scan/count API Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-13 6:12 ` Artem Bityutskiy
[not found] ` <1368425530.3208.13.camel-Bxnoe/o8FG+Ef9UqXRslZEEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-13 7:28 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-13 7:28 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-13 7:28 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <51909610.1010801-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-13 7:43 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2013-05-13 7:43 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2013-05-13 10:36 ` Jan Kara
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 16/31] drivers: convert shrinkers to new count/scan API Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 17/31] i915: bail out earlier when shrinker cannot acquire mutex Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 18/31] shrinker: convert remaining shrinkers to count/scan API Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 19/31] hugepage: convert huge zero page shrinker to new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 20/31] shrinker: Kill old ->shrink API Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 21/31] vmscan: also shrink slab in memcg pressure Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 22/31] memcg,list_lru: duplicate LRUs upon kmemcg creation Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 23/31] lru: add an element to a memcg list Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 24/31] list_lru: per-memcg walks Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 25/31] memcg: per-memcg kmem shrinking Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 26/31] memcg: scan cache objects hierarchically Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 27/31] vmscan: take at least one pass with shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 28/31] super: targeted memcg reclaim Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 29/31] memcg: move initialization to memcg creation Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 30/31] vmpressure: in-kernel notifications Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` [PATCH v6 31/31] memcg: reap dead memcgs upon global memory pressure Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-12 18:13 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-13 7:14 ` [PATCH v6 00/31] kmemcg shrinkers Dave Chinner
2013-05-13 7:21 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-13 8:00 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-13 8:00 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-13 8:00 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <51909D84.7040800-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-05-14 1:48 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-14 1:48 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-14 5:22 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-14 5:45 ` Dave Chinner
2013-05-14 7:38 ` Glauber Costa
2013-05-14 7:38 ` Glauber Costa
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