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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@openvz.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	hughd@google.com, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 04/35] dentry: move to per-sb LRU locks
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 16:51:49 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51B085E5.9070103@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51B0424A.3090208@parallels.com>

On 06/06/2013 12:03 PM, Glauber Costa wrote:
> On 06/06/2013 03:07 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Mon,  3 Jun 2013 23:29:33 +0400 Glauber Costa <glommer@openvz.org> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
>>>
>>> With the dentry LRUs being per-sb structures, there is no real need
>>> for a global dentry_lru_lock. The locking can be made more
>>> fine-grained by moving to a per-sb LRU lock, isolating the LRU
>>> operations of different filesytsems completely from each other.
>>
>> What's the point to this patch?  Is it to enable some additional
>> development, or is it a standalone performance tweak?
>>
>> If the latter then the patch obviously makes this dentry code bloatier
>> and straight-line slower.  So we're assuming that the multiprocessor
>> contention-avoidance benefits will outweigh that cost.  Got any proof
>> of this?
>>
>>
> This is preparation for the whole point of this series, which is to
> abstract the lru manipulation into a list_lru. It is hard to do that
> when the dcache has a single lock for all manipulations, and multiple
> lists under its umbrella.
> 
> 

I have updated the Changelog, that now reads:

With the dentry LRUs being per-sb structures, there is no real need for
a global dentry_lru_lock. The locking can be made more fine-grained by
moving to a per-sb LRU lock, isolating the LRU operations of different
filesytsems completely from each other. The need for this is independent
of any performance consideration that may arise: in the interest of
abstracting the lru operations away, it is mandatory that each lru works
around its own lock instead of a global lock for all of them.

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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@openvz.org>,
	<linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, <hughd@google.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 04/35] dentry: move to per-sb LRU locks
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 16:51:49 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51B085E5.9070103@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51B0424A.3090208@parallels.com>

On 06/06/2013 12:03 PM, Glauber Costa wrote:
> On 06/06/2013 03:07 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Mon,  3 Jun 2013 23:29:33 +0400 Glauber Costa <glommer@openvz.org> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
>>>
>>> With the dentry LRUs being per-sb structures, there is no real need
>>> for a global dentry_lru_lock. The locking can be made more
>>> fine-grained by moving to a per-sb LRU lock, isolating the LRU
>>> operations of different filesytsems completely from each other.
>>
>> What's the point to this patch?  Is it to enable some additional
>> development, or is it a standalone performance tweak?
>>
>> If the latter then the patch obviously makes this dentry code bloatier
>> and straight-line slower.  So we're assuming that the multiprocessor
>> contention-avoidance benefits will outweigh that cost.  Got any proof
>> of this?
>>
>>
> This is preparation for the whole point of this series, which is to
> abstract the lru manipulation into a list_lru. It is hard to do that
> when the dcache has a single lock for all manipulations, and multiple
> lists under its umbrella.
> 
> 

I have updated the Changelog, that now reads:

With the dentry LRUs being per-sb structures, there is no real need for
a global dentry_lru_lock. The locking can be made more fine-grained by
moving to a per-sb LRU lock, isolating the LRU operations of different
filesytsems completely from each other. The need for this is independent
of any performance consideration that may arise: in the interest of
abstracting the lru operations away, it is mandatory that each lru works
around its own lock instead of a global lock for all of them.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-06 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 248+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-03 19:29 [PATCH v10 00/35] kmemcg shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 02/35] super: fix calculation of shrinkable objects for small numbers Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 05/35] dcache: remove dentries from LRU before putting on dispose list Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:07     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  8:04     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:04       ` Glauber Costa
     [not found] ` <1370287804-3481-1-git-send-email-glommer-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 01/35] fs: bump inode and dentry counters to long Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 03/35] dcache: convert dentry_stat.nr_unused to per-cpu counters Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:07       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  1:45       ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  2:48         ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  4:02           ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06 12:40           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 12:40             ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 22:25             ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 22:25               ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]               ` <20130606152546.52f614d852da32d28a0b460f-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 23:42                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06 23:42                   ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-07  6:03                   ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-07  6:03                     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-07  6:03                     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 04/35] dentry: move to per-sb LRU locks Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:07       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  1:56       ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  8:03       ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:03         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 12:51         ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2013-06-06 12:51           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 06/35] mm: new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:07       ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <20130605160751.499f0ebb35e89a80dd7931f2-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06  7:58         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  7:58           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  7:58           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 07/35] shrinker: convert superblock shrinkers to new API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 08/35] list: add a new LRU list type Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <1370287804-3481-9-git-send-email-glommer-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-05 23:07       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:07         ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:07         ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  2:49         ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  2:49           ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  3:05           ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]             ` <20130605200554.d4dae16f.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06  4:44               ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  4:44                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  7:04                 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  9:03                   ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  9:03                     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  9:55                     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  9:55                       ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                       ` <20130606025517.8400c279.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 11:47                         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 11:47                           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 11:47                           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 14:28           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 14:28             ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 14:28             ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:10         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:10           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 09/35] inode: convert inode lru list to generic lru list code Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 10/35] dcache: convert to use new lru list infrastructure Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 11/35] list_lru: per-node " Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:08       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  3:21       ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  3:51         ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  3:51           ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  8:21         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:21           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:21           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 16:15       ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 16:15         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 16:48         ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 16:48           ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 16:48           ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 12/35] shrinker: add node awareness Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:08       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  3:26       ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  3:54         ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <20130605160810.5b203c3368b9df7d087ee3b1-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06  8:23         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:23           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:23           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 13/35] vmscan: per-node deferred work Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:08       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  3:37       ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  4:59         ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  7:12           ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  7:12             ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <20130605160815.fb69f7d4d1736455727fc669-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06  9:00         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  9:00           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  9:00           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 14/35] list_lru: per-node API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 15/35] fs: convert inode and dentry shrinking to be node aware Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 16/35] xfs: convert buftarg LRU to generic code Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 17/35] xfs: rework buffer dispose list tracking Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 18/35] xfs: convert dquot cache lru to list_lru Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 19/35] fs: convert fs shrinkers to new scan/count API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 21/35] i915: bail out earlier when shrinker cannot acquire mutex Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 22/35] shrinker: convert remaining shrinkers to count/scan API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:08       ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <20130605160821.59adf9ad4efe48144fd9e237-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06  3:41         ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  3:41           ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  8:27           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:27             ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 23/35] hugepage: convert huge zero page shrinker to new shrinker API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 24/35] shrinker: Kill old ->shrink API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 25/35] vmscan: also shrink slab in memcg pressure Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 26/35] memcg,list_lru: duplicate LRUs upon kmemcg creation Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:08       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:08       ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <20130605160828.1ec9f3538258d9a6d6c74083-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06  8:52         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:52           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:52           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 27/35] lru: add an element to a memcg list Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:08       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:08       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  8:44       ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:44         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 28/35] list_lru: per-memcg walks Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:08       ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <20130605160837.0d0a35fbd4b32d7ad02f7136-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06  8:37         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:37           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:37           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 29/35] memcg: per-memcg kmem shrinking Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:08       ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <20130605160841.909420c06bfde62039489d2e-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06  8:35         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:35           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:35           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  9:49           ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  9:49             ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]             ` <20130606024906.e5b85b28.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 12:09               ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 12:09                 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06 12:09                 ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]                 ` <51B07BEC.9010205-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 22:23                   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 22:23                     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06 22:23                     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-07  6:10                     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-07  6:10                       ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-07  6:10                       ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` [PATCH v10 30/35] memcg: scan cache objects hierarchically Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:08     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:08       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-03 19:30   ` [PATCH v10 32/35] super: targeted memcg reclaim Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30   ` [PATCH v10 33/35] memcg: move initialization to memcg creation Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30   ` [PATCH v10 34/35] vmpressure: in-kernel notifications Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30   ` [PATCH v10 35/35] memcg: reap dead memcgs upon global memory pressure Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:09     ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:09       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  8:33       ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:33         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  8:33         ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29 ` [PATCH v10 20/35] drivers: convert shrinkers to new count/scan API Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:29   ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30 ` [PATCH v10 31/35] vmscan: take at least one pass with shrinkers Glauber Costa
2013-06-03 19:30   ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-05 23:07 ` [PATCH v10 00/35] kmemcg shrinkers Andrew Morton
2013-06-05 23:07   ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  3:44   ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-06  5:51   ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  5:51     ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  5:51     ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]     ` <51B02347.60809-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06  7:18       ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  7:18         ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  7:18         ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]         ` <20130606001855.48d9da2e.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06  7:37           ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  7:37             ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  7:37             ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  7:47             ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  7:47               ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-06  7:59               ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  7:59                 ` Glauber Costa
2013-06-06  7:59                 ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]   ` <20130605160721.da995af82eb247ccf8f8537f-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-07 14:15     ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-07 14:15       ` Michal Hocko

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