From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Tang Chen <imtangchen@gmail.com>,
Tang Chen <tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH part5 0/7] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE.
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 13:57:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52094C30.7070204@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130812205456.GC8288@mtj.dyndns.org>
On 08/12/2013 01:54 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Tony.
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 08:49:42PM +0000, Luck, Tony wrote:
>> The only fly I see in the ointment here is the crazy fragmentation of physical
>> memory below 4G on X86 systems. Typically it will all be on the same node.
>> But I don't know if there is any specification that requires it be that way. If some
>> "helpful" OEM decided to make some "lowmem" (below 4G) be available on
>> every node, they might in theory do something truly awesomely strange. But
>> even here - the granularity of such mappings tends to be large enough that
>> the "allocate near where the kernel was loaded" should still work to make those
>> allocations be on the same node for the "few megabytes" level of allocations.
>
> Yeah, "near kernel" allocations are needed only till SRAT information
> is parsed and fed into memblock. From then on, it'll be the usual
> node-affine top-down allocations, so the memory amount of interest
> here is inherently tiny; otherwise, we're doing something silly in our
> boot sequence.
>
Again, how much memory are we talking about here?
-hpa
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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Tang Chen <imtangchen@gmail.com>,
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"Moore, Robert" <robert.moore@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH part5 0/7] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE.
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 13:57:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52094C30.7070204@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130812205456.GC8288@mtj.dyndns.org>
On 08/12/2013 01:54 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Tony.
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 08:49:42PM +0000, Luck, Tony wrote:
>> The only fly I see in the ointment here is the crazy fragmentation of physical
>> memory below 4G on X86 systems. Typically it will all be on the same node.
>> But I don't know if there is any specification that requires it be that way. If some
>> "helpful" OEM decided to make some "lowmem" (below 4G) be available on
>> every node, they might in theory do something truly awesomely strange. But
>> even here - the granularity of such mappings tends to be large enough that
>> the "allocate near where the kernel was loaded" should still work to make those
>> allocations be on the same node for the "few megabytes" level of allocations.
>
> Yeah, "near kernel" allocations are needed only till SRAT information
> is parsed and fed into memblock. From then on, it'll be the usual
> node-affine top-down allocations, so the memory amount of interest
> here is inherently tiny; otherwise, we're doing something silly in our
> boot sequence.
>
Again, how much memory are we talking about here?
-hpa
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Thread overview: 165+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-08 10:16 [PATCH part5 0/7] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 1/7] x86: get pg_data_t's memory from other node Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 14:39 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 14:39 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 15:12 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 15:12 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 2/7] x86, numa, mem_hotplug: Skip all the regions the kernel resides in Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 3/7] memblock, numa: Introduce flag into memblock Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 4/7] memblock, mem_hotplug: Introduce MEMBLOCK_HOTPLUG flag to mark hotpluggable regions Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 5/7] memblock, mem_hotplug: Make memblock skip hotpluggable regions by default Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-14 21:54 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-08-14 21:54 ` Naoya Horiguchi
2013-08-15 5:15 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 5:15 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 6/7] mem-hotplug: Introduce movablenode boot option to {en|dis}able using SRAT Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` [PATCH part5 7/7] x86, numa, acpi, memory-hotplug: Make movablenode have higher priority Tang Chen
2013-08-08 10:16 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-09 16:32 ` [PATCH part5 0/7] Arrange hotpluggable memory as ZONE_MOVABLE Tejun Heo
2013-08-09 16:32 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 6:33 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 8:54 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 8:54 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 14:50 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 14:50 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 15:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 15:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 15:23 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 15:23 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 16:29 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 16:29 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 16:46 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 16:46 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 18:23 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 18:23 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 20:20 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 20:20 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 20:49 ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-12 20:49 ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-12 20:54 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 20:54 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 20:57 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-08-12 20:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:06 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-12 21:06 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-12 21:08 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 21:08 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 21:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:14 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 21:14 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 21:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:11 ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-12 21:11 ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-12 21:25 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-12 21:25 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-12 21:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 21:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13 5:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13 5:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-13 6:14 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-13 6:14 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-13 9:56 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-13 9:56 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-13 14:38 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-13 14:38 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-13 22:33 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-13 22:33 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-14 1:22 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-14 1:22 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 19:06 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-15 19:06 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-15 20:28 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 20:28 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-16 2:08 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-16 2:08 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-16 4:21 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-16 4:21 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-19 3:07 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-19 3:07 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-19 3:28 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-19 3:28 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 8:42 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 8:42 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 12:19 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 12:19 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 12:44 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 12:44 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 12:49 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 12:49 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 12:52 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 12:52 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-15 14:37 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 14:37 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 14:45 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 14:45 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 15:05 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 15:05 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 15:10 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 15:10 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 19:49 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-15 19:49 ` Toshi Kani
2013-08-15 19:08 ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-15 19:08 ` Luck, Tony
2013-08-15 19:34 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 19:34 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 14:35 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-15 14:35 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-08-16 1:16 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-16 1:16 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 15:41 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 15:41 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 15:46 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 15:46 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 16:19 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 16:19 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 16:22 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 16:22 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 17:01 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 17:01 ` Tang Chen
2013-08-12 17:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-12 17:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-14 18:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 18:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-12 18:07 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-12 18:07 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 18:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 18:15 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 18:23 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 18:23 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 19:40 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 19:40 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 19:55 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 19:55 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 20:29 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 20:29 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 20:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-14 20:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-14 20:35 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 20:35 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 21:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 21:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-14 21:36 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-14 21:36 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 1:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15 1:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15 1:21 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 1:21 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 1:33 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 1:33 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 1:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15 1:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15 2:22 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 2:22 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 1:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15 1:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-08-15 1:51 ` Tejun Heo
2013-08-15 1:51 ` Tejun Heo
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