From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, brogers@suse.de, glin@suse.de,
agraf@suse.de, stable@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, edk2-devel@lists.sf.net,
lnussel@suse.de,
Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
afaerber@suse.de
Subject: Re: [edk2] [PATCH] KVM: mmu: allow page tables to be in read-only slots
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 18:00:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5224B608.3080303@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130902092518.GN22899@redhat.com>
Il 02/09/2013 11:25, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
> On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 05:20:15PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>> On 08/30/2013 08:41 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>> Page tables in a read-only memory slot will currently cause a triple
>>> fault because the page walker uses gfn_to_hva and it fails on such a slot.
>>>
>>> OVMF uses such a page table; however, real hardware seems to be fine with
>>> that as long as the accessed/dirty bits are set. Save whether the slot
>>> is readonly, and later check it when updating the accessed and dirty bits.
>>
>> Paolo, do you know why OVMF is using readonly memory like this?
>>
> Just a guess, but perhaps they want to move to paging mode as early as
> possible even before memory controller is fully initialized.
More precisely they want to move to 64-bit mode as early as possible,
and that requires paging.
>> AFAIK, The fault trigged by this kind of access can hardly be fixed by
>> userspace since the fault is trigged by pagetable walking not by the current
>> instruction. Do you have any idea to let uerspace emulate it properly?
>
> Not sure what userspace you mean here, but there shouldn't be a fault in the
> first place if ROM page tables have access/dirty bit set and they do.
Yep. Actually they do not set dirty on the PD/PDP/PML4, only on the
bottom level (which is also fine).
Paolo
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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, glin@suse.de,
agraf@suse.de, brogers@suse.de, afaerber@suse.de,
lnussel@suse.de, edk2-devel@lists.sf.net, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: mmu: allow page tables to be in read-only slots
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 18:00:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5224B608.3080303@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130902092518.GN22899@redhat.com>
Il 02/09/2013 11:25, Gleb Natapov ha scritto:
> On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 05:20:15PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>> On 08/30/2013 08:41 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>> Page tables in a read-only memory slot will currently cause a triple
>>> fault because the page walker uses gfn_to_hva and it fails on such a slot.
>>>
>>> OVMF uses such a page table; however, real hardware seems to be fine with
>>> that as long as the accessed/dirty bits are set. Save whether the slot
>>> is readonly, and later check it when updating the accessed and dirty bits.
>>
>> Paolo, do you know why OVMF is using readonly memory like this?
>>
> Just a guess, but perhaps they want to move to paging mode as early as
> possible even before memory controller is fully initialized.
More precisely they want to move to 64-bit mode as early as possible,
and that requires paging.
>> AFAIK, The fault trigged by this kind of access can hardly be fixed by
>> userspace since the fault is trigged by pagetable walking not by the current
>> instruction. Do you have any idea to let uerspace emulate it properly?
>
> Not sure what userspace you mean here, but there shouldn't be a fault in the
> first place if ROM page tables have access/dirty bit set and they do.
Yep. Actually they do not set dirty on the PD/PDP/PML4, only on the
bottom level (which is also fine).
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-02 16:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-30 12:41 [PATCH] KVM: mmu: allow page tables to be in read-only slots Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-01 9:17 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-02 9:42 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-02 9:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-02 10:05 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-02 10:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-02 15:58 ` [edk2] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-02 15:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-02 16:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-14 15:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-02 9:20 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-02 9:25 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-02 10:00 ` Xiao Guangrong
2013-09-02 10:07 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-02 15:56 ` [edk2] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-02 15:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-02 16:26 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-09-02 16:00 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-09-02 16:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-02 16:16 ` Gleb Natapov
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