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From: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
To: lkp@lists.01.org
Subject: Re: increased vmap_area_lock contentions on "n_tty: Move buffers into n_tty_data"
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 17:42:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5244AA5C.8060100@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130926110551.52ad8156.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

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On 09/26/2013 02:05 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:35:32 -0400 Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com> wrote:
>
>> The issue with a single large kmalloc is that it may fail where
>> 3 separate, page-or-less kmallocs would not have.
>
> Or vmalloc fails first, because of internal fragmentation of the vmap
> arena.  This problem plus vmalloc's slowness are the reasons why
> vmalloc should be avoided.

Ok, no vmalloc.

> A tremendous number of places in the kernel perform higher-order
> allocations nowadays.  The page allocator works damn hard to service
> them and I expect that switching to kmalloc here will be OK.

I've had order-4 allocation failures before on 10Gb. In fact, the
nouveau driver switched to vmalloc for that very reason (commit
d005f51eb93d71cd40ebd11dd377453fa8c8a42a, drm/nouveau: use vmalloc
for pgt allocation).

Regards,
Peter Hurley

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From: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkp@01.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: increased vmap_area_lock contentions on "n_tty: Move buffers into n_tty_data"
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 17:42:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5244AA5C.8060100@hurleysoftware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130926110551.52ad8156.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On 09/26/2013 02:05 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:35:32 -0400 Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com> wrote:
>
>> The issue with a single large kmalloc is that it may fail where
>> 3 separate, page-or-less kmallocs would not have.
>
> Or vmalloc fails first, because of internal fragmentation of the vmap
> arena.  This problem plus vmalloc's slowness are the reasons why
> vmalloc should be avoided.

Ok, no vmalloc.

> A tremendous number of places in the kernel perform higher-order
> allocations nowadays.  The page allocator works damn hard to service
> them and I expect that switching to kmalloc here will be OK.

I've had order-4 allocation failures before on 10Gb. In fact, the
nouveau driver switched to vmalloc for that very reason (commit
d005f51eb93d71cd40ebd11dd377453fa8c8a42a, drm/nouveau: use vmalloc
for pgt allocation).

Regards,
Peter Hurley

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-26 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-13  0:51 increased vmap_area_lock contentions on "n_tty: Move buffers into n_tty_data" Fengguang Wu
2013-09-13  0:51 ` Fengguang Wu
2013-09-13  1:09 ` Fengguang Wu
2013-09-13  1:09   ` Fengguang Wu
2013-09-17 15:34   ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-17 15:34     ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-17 23:22     ` Fengguang Wu
2013-09-17 23:22       ` Fengguang Wu
2013-09-18  0:22       ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-18  0:22         ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-25  9:04         ` Lin Ming
2013-09-25  9:04           ` Lin Ming
2013-09-25 11:30           ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-25 11:30             ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-25 14:53             ` Lin Ming
2013-09-25 14:53               ` Lin Ming
2013-09-25 16:02             ` Lin Ming
2013-09-25 16:02               ` Lin Ming
2013-09-26  3:20               ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-26  3:20                 ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-26 11:52                 ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-26 11:52                   ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-26 15:32                   ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-26 15:32                     ` Andi Kleen
2013-09-26 17:22                     ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-26 17:22                       ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-26  7:33         ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-26  7:33           ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-26 11:31           ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-26 11:31             ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-26 15:04             ` Greg KH
2013-09-26 15:04               ` Greg KH
2013-09-26 17:35               ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-26 17:35                 ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-26 18:05                 ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-26 18:05                   ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-26 21:42                   ` Peter Hurley [this message]
2013-09-26 21:42                     ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-26 21:58                     ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-26 21:58                       ` Andrew Morton
2013-09-26 22:21                       ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-26 22:21                         ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-18  0:49   ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-18  0:49     ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-13  3:17 ` Greg KH
2013-09-13  3:17   ` Greg KH
2013-09-13  3:38   ` Fengguang Wu
2013-09-13  3:38     ` Fengguang Wu
2013-09-13  3:44     ` Greg KH
2013-09-13  3:44       ` Greg KH
2013-09-13  9:55       ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-13  9:55         ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-13 12:34         ` Greg KH
2013-09-13 12:34           ` Greg KH
2013-09-17  2:42     ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-17  2:42       ` Peter Hurley
2013-09-17  2:56       ` Fengguang Wu
2013-09-17  2:56         ` Fengguang Wu

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