From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/14] vrange: Add new vrange(2) system call
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 18:24:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52535EE1.3060700@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131008001306.GD25780@bbox>
On 10/07/2013 05:13 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
>>
>> The point is that MADV_DONTNEED is very similar in that sense,
>> especially if allowed to be lazy. It makes a lot of sense to permit
>> both scrubbing modes orthogonally.
>>
>> The point you're making has to do with withdrawal of permission to flush
>> on demand, which is a result of having the lazy mode (ongoing
>> permission) and having to be able to withdraw such permission.
>
> I'm sorry I could not understand what you wanted to say.
> Could you elaborate a bit?
>
Basically, you need this because of MADV_LAZY or the equivalent, so it
would be applicable to a similar variant of madvise().
As such I would suggest that an madvise4() call would be appropriate.
-hpa
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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@android.com>,
Robert Love <rlove@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
Andrea Righi <andrea@betterlinux.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>, Taras Glek <tglek@mozilla.com>,
Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@gmail.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/14] vrange: Add new vrange(2) system call
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 18:24:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52535EE1.3060700@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131008001306.GD25780@bbox>
On 10/07/2013 05:13 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
>>
>> The point is that MADV_DONTNEED is very similar in that sense,
>> especially if allowed to be lazy. It makes a lot of sense to permit
>> both scrubbing modes orthogonally.
>>
>> The point you're making has to do with withdrawal of permission to flush
>> on demand, which is a result of having the lazy mode (ongoing
>> permission) and having to be able to withdraw such permission.
>
> I'm sorry I could not understand what you wanted to say.
> Could you elaborate a bit?
>
Basically, you need this because of MADV_LAZY or the equivalent, so it
would be applicable to a similar variant of madvise().
As such I would suggest that an madvise4() call would be appropriate.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-08 1:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-03 0:51 [PATCH 00/14] Volatile Ranges v9 John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 01/14] vrange: Add basic data structure and functions John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 02/14] vrange: Add vrange support to mm_structs John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 03/14] vrange: Clear volatility on new mmaps John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 04/14] vrange: Add support for volatile ranges on file mappings John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 05/14] vrange: Add new vrange(2) system call John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-07 22:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-07 22:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-07 23:14 ` John Stultz
2013-10-07 23:14 ` John Stultz
2013-10-07 23:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-07 23:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-07 23:41 ` John Stultz
2013-10-07 23:41 ` John Stultz
2013-10-07 23:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-07 23:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-07 23:54 ` John Stultz
2013-10-07 23:54 ` John Stultz
2013-10-07 23:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-07 23:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-08 0:13 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 0:13 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 0:18 ` John Stultz
2013-10-08 0:18 ` John Stultz
2013-10-08 0:34 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 0:34 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 0:38 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 0:38 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 1:24 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-10-08 1:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-08 2:08 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 2:08 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 2:51 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-10-08 2:51 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-10-08 3:07 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 3:07 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 4:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-10-08 4:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-10-08 7:12 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 7:12 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 7:17 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 7:17 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 0:03 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 0:03 ` Minchan Kim
2013-10-08 0:07 ` John Stultz
2013-10-08 0:07 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 06/14] vrange: Add basic functions to purge volatile pages John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 10:22 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2013-10-03 10:22 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 07/14] vrange: Purge volatile pages when memory is tight John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-08 3:27 ` Zhan Jianyu
2013-10-08 3:27 ` Zhan Jianyu
2013-10-08 16:22 ` John Stultz
2013-10-08 16:22 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 08/14] vrange: Send SIGBUS when user try to access purged page John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 09/14] vrange: Add vrange LRU list for purging John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 10/14] vrange: Add core shrinking logic for swapless system John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 11/14] vrange: Purging vrange-anon pages from shrinker John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 12/14] vrange: Support background purging for vrange-file John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 13/14] vrange: Allocate vroot dynamically John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` [PATCH 14/14] vrange: Add vmstat counter about purged page John Stultz
2013-10-03 0:51 ` John Stultz
2013-10-03 23:56 ` [PATCH 00/14] Volatile Ranges v9 John Stultz
2013-10-03 23:56 ` John Stultz
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