From: Li Zefan <lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: iterate cgroup_subsys_states directly
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:28:24 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <537569B8.5050402@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140514130722.GE28815-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
On2014/5/14 21:07, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Li.
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:21:25PM +0800, Li Zefan wrote:
>>> There are now use cases where controllers need to iterate through
>>> csses regardless of their online state as long as they have positive
>>
>> What use cases are we talking about here?
>
> memcg wants to be able to iterate all csses whose refcnts haven't
> reached zero yet so that it can treat offline csses the same way as
> online ones in terms of memory reclaim. They don't contain new tasks
> so new charges won't be created but offlining won't try to transfer
> all charges to the parent but just leave the offline child attached
> until all charges are eventually reclaimed from the pressure from the
> parent.
>
> I'm not too familiar with the details but this makes sense in generic
> sense too. Offline marks an object starting its draining phase and
> release marks the actual destruction point. For controllers with
> persistent states like memcg, it's a lot more natural to deal offlined
> csses as "active but draining following the usual hierarchical
> operation" rather than trying to explicitly update the states from
> offline to move them to the parent especially as the effort there
> essentially is a waste as most of those moved charges aren't gonna be
> used in the parent and will be released eventually.
>
> Guaranteeing iteration of offline but not-released csses allow
> controllers to treat the draining stage between offline and release
> more or less identically to online state which in turn can make
> ->css_offline() significantly simpler and lighter.
>
yeah, fair enough.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: iterate cgroup_subsys_states directly
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:28:24 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <537569B8.5050402@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140514130722.GE28815@htj.dyndns.org>
On2014/5/14 21:07, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Li.
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:21:25PM +0800, Li Zefan wrote:
>>> There are now use cases where controllers need to iterate through
>>> csses regardless of their online state as long as they have positive
>>
>> What use cases are we talking about here?
>
> memcg wants to be able to iterate all csses whose refcnts haven't
> reached zero yet so that it can treat offline csses the same way as
> online ones in terms of memory reclaim. They don't contain new tasks
> so new charges won't be created but offlining won't try to transfer
> all charges to the parent but just leave the offline child attached
> until all charges are eventually reclaimed from the pressure from the
> parent.
>
> I'm not too familiar with the details but this makes sense in generic
> sense too. Offline marks an object starting its draining phase and
> release marks the actual destruction point. For controllers with
> persistent states like memcg, it's a lot more natural to deal offlined
> csses as "active but draining following the usual hierarchical
> operation" rather than trying to explicitly update the states from
> offline to move them to the parent especially as the effort there
> essentially is a waste as most of those moved charges aren't gonna be
> used in the parent and will be released eventually.
>
> Guaranteeing iteration of offline but not-released csses allow
> controllers to treat the draining stage between offline and release
> more or less identically to online state which in turn can make
> ->css_offline() significantly simpler and lighter.
>
yeah, fair enough.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-16 1:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-09 21:31 [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: iterate cgroup_subsys_states directly Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 01/14] cgroup: remove css_parent() Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1399671091-23867-2-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-11 1:47 ` David Miller
2014-05-11 1:47 ` David Miller
2014-05-11 13:02 ` Neil Horman
2014-05-11 13:02 ` Neil Horman
2014-05-13 18:50 ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2014-05-13 18:50 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-12 13:16 ` [PATCH " Michal Hocko
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 04/14] device_cgroup: remove direct access to cgroup->children Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1399671091-23867-5-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-13 12:56 ` Aristeu Rozanski
2014-05-13 12:56 ` Aristeu Rozanski
2014-05-14 12:52 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-05-14 12:52 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 05/14] cgroup: remove cgroup->parent Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1399671091-23867-1-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 02/14] cgroup: remove pointless has tasks/children test from mem_cgroup_force_empty() Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1399671091-23867-3-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-12 14:53 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 14:53 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20140512145324.GE9564-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-12 14:58 ` [PATCH] memcg: deprecate memory.force_empty knob Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 14:58 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20140512145803.GF9564-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-12 15:00 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-12 15:00 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20140512150014.GB1421-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-12 15:20 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 15:20 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 15:25 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20140512152507.GD1421-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-12 15:34 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 15:34 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20140512153458.GJ9564-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-13 13:16 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-13 13:16 ` Johannes Weiner
[not found] ` <20140513131655.GC18849-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-13 15:09 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-13 15:09 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 14:59 ` [PATCH 02/14] cgroup: remove pointless has tasks/children test from mem_cgroup_force_empty() Tejun Heo
2014-05-12 14:59 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20140512145927.GA1421-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-12 15:21 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 15:21 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-13 13:10 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-13 13:10 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-13 16:46 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-13 16:46 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-13 18:51 ` [PATCH UPDATED 02/14] memcg: remove " Tejun Heo
2014-05-13 18:51 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 03/14] memcg: update memcg_has_children() to use css_next_child() Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1399671091-23867-4-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-12 15:18 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 15:18 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-13 16:53 ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 06/14] cgroup: move cgroup->sibling and ->children into cgroup_subsys_state Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 07/14] cgroup: link all cgroup_subsys_states in their sibling lists Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-13 16:59 ` [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: iterate cgroup_subsys_states directly Tejun Heo
2014-05-13 16:59 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-14 4:21 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-14 4:21 ` Li Zefan
[not found] ` <5372EF45.8060701-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-14 13:07 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-14 13:07 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20140514130722.GE28815-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-16 1:28 ` Li Zefan [this message]
2014-05-16 1:28 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-16 1:29 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-16 1:29 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-16 16:08 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-16 16:08 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 08/14] cgroup: move cgroup->serial_nr into cgroup_subsys_state Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 09/14] cgroup: introduce CSS_RELEASED and reduce css iteration fallback window Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1399671091-23867-10-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-16 16:07 ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2014-05-16 16:07 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 10/14] cgroup: iterate cgroup_subsys_states directly Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 11/14] cgroup: use CSS_ONLINE instead of CGRP_DEAD Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 12/14] cgroup: convert cgroup_has_live_children() into css_has_online_children() Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 13/14] device_cgroup: use css_has_online_children() instead of has_children() Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1399671091-23867-14-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-13 12:56 ` Aristeu Rozanski
2014-05-13 12:56 ` Aristeu Rozanski
2014-05-14 12:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 14/14] cgroup: implement css_tryget() Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <1399671091-23867-15-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-11 4:54 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-11 4:54 ` Johannes Weiner
[not found] ` <20140511045459.GA25009-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2014-05-11 12:38 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-11 12:38 ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-16 16:07 ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2014-05-16 16:07 ` Tejun Heo
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