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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	richard.weinberger-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	lkml <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>,
	mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: For review: user_namespace(7) man page
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 06:59:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <540F07CD.3080708@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d2bhfxvc.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>

On 08/30/2014 02:53 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> writes:
[...]


>>        The initial user namespace has no parent namespace, but, for con‐
>>        sistency, the kernel provides dummy user  and  group  ID  mapping
>>        files  for  this namespace.  Looking at the uid_map file (gid_map
>>        is the same) from a shell in the initial namespace shows:
>>
>>            $ cat /proc/$$/uid_map
>>                     0          0 4294967295
>>
>>        This mapping tells us that the range starting at  user  ID  0  in
>>        this namespace maps to a range starting at 0 in the (nonexistent)
>>        parent namespace, and the length of  the  range  is  the  largest
>>        32-bit unsigned integer.
> 
> Which deliberately leaves 4294967295 32bit (-1) unmapped.  (uid_t)-1 is
> used in several interfaces (like setreuid) as a way to specify no uid
> leaving it unmapped and unusuable guarantees that there will be no
> confusion when using those kernel methods.

So, I worked that piece into the text to give:

       This  mapping  tells us that the range starting at user ID 0 in
       this namespace maps to a range starting at 0 in  the  (nonexis‐
       tent)  parent  namespace,  and  the  length of the range is the
       largest 32-bit unsigned  integer.   (This  deliberately  leaves
       4294967295  (the  32-bit  signed  -1  value) unmapped.  This is
       deliberate: (uid_t) -1 is used  in  several  interfaces  (e.g.,
       setreuid(2))  as  a  way  to  specify  "no  user  ID".  Leaving
       setreuid(2)) unmapped and unusuable guarantees that there  will
       be no confusion when using these interfaces.

Okay?

Cheers,

Michael


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/
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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-man@vger.kernel.org" <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	richard.weinberger@gmail.com,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
Subject: Re: For review: user_namespace(7) man page
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 06:59:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <540F07CD.3080708@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d2bhfxvc.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On 08/30/2014 02:53 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> writes:
[...]


>>        The initial user namespace has no parent namespace, but, for con‐
>>        sistency, the kernel provides dummy user  and  group  ID  mapping
>>        files  for  this namespace.  Looking at the uid_map file (gid_map
>>        is the same) from a shell in the initial namespace shows:
>>
>>            $ cat /proc/$$/uid_map
>>                     0          0 4294967295
>>
>>        This mapping tells us that the range starting at  user  ID  0  in
>>        this namespace maps to a range starting at 0 in the (nonexistent)
>>        parent namespace, and the length of  the  range  is  the  largest
>>        32-bit unsigned integer.
> 
> Which deliberately leaves 4294967295 32bit (-1) unmapped.  (uid_t)-1 is
> used in several interfaces (like setreuid) as a way to specify no uid
> leaving it unmapped and unusuable guarantees that there will be no
> confusion when using those kernel methods.

So, I worked that piece into the text to give:

       This  mapping  tells us that the range starting at user ID 0 in
       this namespace maps to a range starting at 0 in  the  (nonexis‐
       tent)  parent  namespace,  and  the  length of the range is the
       largest 32-bit unsigned  integer.   (This  deliberately  leaves
       4294967295  (the  32-bit  signed  -1  value) unmapped.  This is
       deliberate: (uid_t) -1 is used  in  several  interfaces  (e.g.,
       setreuid(2))  as  a  way  to  specify  "no  user  ID".  Leaving
       setreuid(2)) unmapped and unusuable guarantees that there  will
       be no confusion when using these interfaces.

Okay?

Cheers,

Michael


-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-09 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-20 23:36 For review: user_namespace(7) man page Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-08-20 23:36 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found] ` <53F5310A.5080503-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 21:12   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-08-22 21:12     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20140822211215.GA26308-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 16:58       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-01 16:58         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-08-30 21:53   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-08-30 21:53     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87d2bhfxvc.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 17:31       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-01 17:31       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-01 17:31         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]         ` <5404AD7F.4070004-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02  1:05           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-02  1:05             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87sikade6s.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 14:00               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-09 14:00                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                 ` <540F07FD.7010106-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 16:16                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-09 16:16                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <87bnqon513.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-11 14:40                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-11 14:40                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-09 13:59       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-09 13:59         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]         ` <540F07C7.9000300-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 15:49           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-09 15:49             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87sik0oktt.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-11 14:40               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-11 14:40                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-09 13:59       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2014-09-09 13:59         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]         ` <540F07CD.3080708-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 15:51           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-09 15:51             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87oauookq2.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-11 14:40               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-11 14:40                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-01 20:57   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-01 20:57     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <CALCETrX2qwvzmeoVcLFLxEK=1Fv+f0Ri0TouzzvbN_rgDjka4A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 14:00       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-09 14:00         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]         ` <540F0810.7030408-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 16:05           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-09 16:05             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87ppf4n5ib.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 19:26               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-09 19:26                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                 ` <CALCETrV4WizRXD9JuwibUBbQE9hhNrRDJ3cYyXdhd=OfPziF5g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 19:39                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-09 19:39                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-11 14:47                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-11 14:47                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                     ` <5411B5F5.2090500-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-11 15:15                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-11 15:15                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                         ` <CALCETrXOgCUrrzeJYJ6VoPgR5Rt0HFCrhRC0H7+3XLv1Y+sJ_A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-14  2:58                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-14  2:58                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-14  2:58                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-11 14:46               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-11 14:46               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-11 14:46                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                 ` <5411B5D6.9010201-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-11 15:14                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-11 15:14                     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                     ` <CALCETrV1EtrzfEhS55ToPD5VTbY9VjmmOA6bv2H9PGGQ-G=WGA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-14  2:42                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-14  2:42                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-14  2:42                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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2014-08-20 23:36 Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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