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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman"
	<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	richard -rw- weinberger
	<richard.weinberger-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Containers
	<containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: For review: user_namespace(7) man page
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:47:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5411B5F5.2090500@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrV4WizRXD9JuwibUBbQE9hhNrRDJ3cYyXdhd=OfPziF5g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

Hi Andy,

On 09/09/2014 12:26 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> We may also want to discuss the specific restrictions on chroot.
>>
>> The text about chroot at least gives people a strong hint that the
>> chroot rules are affected by user namespaces.
>>
>> The restrictions that we have settled on to avoid chroot being a problem
>> are the creator of a user namespace must not be chrooted in their
>> current mount namespace, and the creator of the user namespace must not
>> be threaded.
>>
>> Andy can you check me on this it looks like unshare is currently buggy
>> in that it will allow a threaded application to create a user namespace.
> 
> I think it's this code in unshare:
> 
>     /*
>      * If unsharing a user namespace must also unshare the thread.
>      */
>     if (unshare_flags & CLONE_NEWUSER)
>         unshare_flags |= CLONE_THREAD | CLONE_FS;
> 
> I suppose that this should be documented.
> 
> CLONE_FS prevents the chroot from leaking out of the namespace.  (But
> see the other thread that I'm about to start...)

So, in the current draft of the setns(2) page, there is

    CLONE_NEWNS
        ...
        Since  Linux 3.9, CLONE_NEWUSER also automatically  implies
        CLONE_FS.

Does that cover your point? Or did you mean that more needs to be said?

Thanks,

Michael

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-man@vger.kernel.org" <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	richard -rw- weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
Subject: Re: For review: user_namespace(7) man page
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:47:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5411B5F5.2090500@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrV4WizRXD9JuwibUBbQE9hhNrRDJ3cYyXdhd=OfPziF5g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Andy,

On 09/09/2014 12:26 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>> We may also want to discuss the specific restrictions on chroot.
>>
>> The text about chroot at least gives people a strong hint that the
>> chroot rules are affected by user namespaces.
>>
>> The restrictions that we have settled on to avoid chroot being a problem
>> are the creator of a user namespace must not be chrooted in their
>> current mount namespace, and the creator of the user namespace must not
>> be threaded.
>>
>> Andy can you check me on this it looks like unshare is currently buggy
>> in that it will allow a threaded application to create a user namespace.
> 
> I think it's this code in unshare:
> 
>     /*
>      * If unsharing a user namespace must also unshare the thread.
>      */
>     if (unshare_flags & CLONE_NEWUSER)
>         unshare_flags |= CLONE_THREAD | CLONE_FS;
> 
> I suppose that this should be documented.
> 
> CLONE_FS prevents the chroot from leaking out of the namespace.  (But
> see the other thread that I'm about to start...)

So, in the current draft of the setns(2) page, there is

    CLONE_NEWNS
        ...
        Since  Linux 3.9, CLONE_NEWUSER also automatically  implies
        CLONE_FS.

Does that cover your point? Or did you mean that more needs to be said?

Thanks,

Michael

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-11 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-20 23:36 For review: user_namespace(7) man page Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-08-20 23:36 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found] ` <53F5310A.5080503-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-22 21:12   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-08-22 21:12     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]     ` <20140822211215.GA26308-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 16:58       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-01 16:58         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-08-30 21:53   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-08-30 21:53     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87d2bhfxvc.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-01 17:31       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-01 17:31         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]         ` <5404AD7F.4070004-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-02  1:05           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-02  1:05             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87sikade6s.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 14:00               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-09 14:00                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                 ` <540F07FD.7010106-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 16:16                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-09 16:16                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                     ` <87bnqon513.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-11 14:40                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-11 14:40                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-01 17:31       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-09 13:59       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-09 13:59         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]         ` <540F07C7.9000300-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 15:49           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-09 15:49             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87sik0oktt.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-11 14:40               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-11 14:40                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-09 13:59       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-09 13:59         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]         ` <540F07CD.3080708-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 15:51           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-09 15:51             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87oauookq2.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-11 14:40               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-11 14:40                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-01 20:57   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-01 20:57     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <CALCETrX2qwvzmeoVcLFLxEK=1Fv+f0Ri0TouzzvbN_rgDjka4A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 14:00       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-09 14:00         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]         ` <540F0810.7030408-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 16:05           ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-09 16:05             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <87ppf4n5ib.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 19:26               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-09 19:26                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                 ` <CALCETrV4WizRXD9JuwibUBbQE9hhNrRDJ3cYyXdhd=OfPziF5g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-09 19:39                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-09 19:39                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-11 14:47                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2014-09-11 14:47                     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                     ` <5411B5F5.2090500-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-11 15:15                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-11 15:15                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                         ` <CALCETrXOgCUrrzeJYJ6VoPgR5Rt0HFCrhRC0H7+3XLv1Y+sJ_A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-14  2:58                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-14  2:58                             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-14  2:58                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-11 14:46               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-11 14:46                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                 ` <5411B5D6.9010201-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-11 15:14                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-11 15:14                     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                     ` <CALCETrV1EtrzfEhS55ToPD5VTbY9VjmmOA6bv2H9PGGQ-G=WGA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-14  2:42                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-14  2:42                         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-14  2:42                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-09-11 14:46               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
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2014-08-20 23:36 Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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