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From: Don Slutz <dslutz@verizon.com>
To: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>, Don Slutz <dslutz@verizon.com>
Cc: Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>, Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Eddie Dong <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
	Aravind Gopalakrishnan <Aravind.Gopalakrishnan@amd.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-4.5 v6 08/16] xen: Add limited support of VMware's hyper-call rpc
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:18:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5420923E.2090704@terremark.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1411393637.18331.108.camel@kazak.uk.xensource.com>


On 09/22/14 09:47, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-09-20 at 14:07 -0400, Don Slutz wrote:
>> This interface is an extension of __HYPERVISOR_HVM_op.  It was
>> picked because xc_get_hvm_param() also uses it and VMware guest
>> info is a lot like a hvm param.
> Sorry if this has been discussed before, but did you consider doing all
> this in qemu rather than Xen?


Yes, but QEMU does not have access to the VCPU registers.  Also QEMU 
does not have this code; so would also need it to be added.

A second part would be adding a way for a tool stack to
communicate with QEMU to access this data.  xenstore/xenbus might
be one way to do this.

> Unless there are frequent accesses to these things then qemu would be
> the default best place for this sort of thing, especially since as
> you've observed there is some pretty complex memory management and
> string handling which it would generally be better to avoid in the
> hypervisor.

The more complex memory management is around not using the
heap during a single guest instruction (inl (%dx)).  Handling
migration of a fully variable sized hunk is not that simple.

Also preventing the guest from accessing outside of the defined
memory does increase the complexity.


> Your description of HVM_PARAM_VMPORT_RESET_TIME suggests they aren't
> typically accessed very frequently.

The rate I have seen is a low number per minute.  However there
is nothing that prevents a guest from doing a very high rate.

     -Don Slutz

> Ian.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-22 21:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-20 18:07 [PATCH for-4.5 v6 00/16] Xen VMware tools support Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 01/16] xen: Add support for VMware cpuid leaves Don Slutz
2014-09-22 11:49   ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-22 16:53     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 14:33   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 02/16] tools: Add vmware_hw support Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:34   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 22:08     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 14:44   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 21:06     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 03/16] vmware: Add VMware provided include files Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 04/16] xen: Add vmware_port support Don Slutz
2014-09-23 17:16   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-24  8:28     ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-26 19:09     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 16:01   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 16:48     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 17:42       ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 05/16] tools: " Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:41   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 16:34     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-22 21:22       ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 16:24         ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 18:25           ` Don Slutz
2014-09-22 16:42     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-23 12:20       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-24 16:31         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 16:44           ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 18:29             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-25 11:24           ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 14:17             ` George Dunlap
2014-09-25 14:21               ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-26 19:19             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 06/16] xen: Convert vmware_port to xentrace usage Don Slutz
2014-09-24 17:27   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 19:07     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-25 15:14       ` George Dunlap
2014-09-29 18:10         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 07/16] tools: " Don Slutz
2014-09-25 15:18   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 08/16] xen: Add limited support of VMware's hyper-call rpc Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:47   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 21:18     ` Don Slutz [this message]
2014-09-23 12:34       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-23 22:03         ` Slutz, Donald Christopher
2014-09-25 16:28     ` George Dunlap
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 09/16] tools: " Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:52   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 21:32     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-23 12:35       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 10/16] Add VMware tool's triggers Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 11/16] Add live migration of VMware's hyper-call RPC Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 12/16] Add dump of HVM_SAVE_CODE(VMPORT) to xen-hvmctx Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [OPTIONAL][PATCH for-4.5 v6 13/16] Add xen-hvm-param Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [OPTIONAL][PATCH for-4.5 v6 14/16] Add xen-vmware-guestinfo Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [OPTIONAL][PATCH for-4.5 v6 15/16] Add xen-list-vmware-guestinfo Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [OPTIONAL][PATCH for-4.5 v6 16/16] Add xen-hvm-send-trigger Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:56 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 00/16] Xen VMware tools support Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 15:19   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-22 15:34     ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 15:38       ` George Dunlap
2014-09-22 15:50         ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 15:55           ` George Dunlap
2014-09-22 17:19             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-22 22:00               ` Tian, Kevin
2014-09-23 12:30               ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-23 12:35                 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-23 12:40                   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-24 15:52                 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 18:09                   ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 17:19                 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 20:21                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-26 19:03                     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-26 19:28                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-25 11:35                   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 16:18         ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-22 18:32           ` Don Slutz
2014-09-25 10:37           ` Tim Deegan
2014-09-26 20:00             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-29  6:50               ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 13:27                 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-29 13:49                   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 23:13                   ` Don Slutz
2014-09-30  7:05                     ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-30 10:02                       ` George Dunlap
2014-09-30 22:11                         ` Slutz, Donald Christopher
2014-09-30 10:09                     ` George Dunlap
2014-09-30 22:23                       ` Slutz, Donald Christopher
2014-10-02 10:05               ` Tim Deegan
2014-10-02 19:20                 ` Don Slutz
2014-10-03  7:09                   ` Tim Deegan
2014-09-22 15:52       ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-22 18:39         ` Don Slutz

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