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From: Don Slutz <dslutz@verizon.com>
To: Tim Deegan <tim@xen.org>, Don Slutz <dslutz@verizon.com>
Cc: Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Eddie Dong <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xen.org,
	AravindGopalakrishnan <Aravind.Gopalakrishnan@amd.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-4.5 v6 00/16] Xen VMware tools support
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2014 15:20:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <542DA56F.8050400@terremark.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141002100507.GB43394@deinos.phlegethon.org>

On 10/02/14 06:05, Tim Deegan wrote:
> At 16:00 -0400 on 26 Sep (1411743641), Don Slutz wrote:
>> On 09/25/14 06:37, Tim Deegan wrote:
>>> At 17:18 +0100 on 22 Sep (1411402700), Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>> On 22.09.14 at 17:38, <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
>>>> That's indeed what was said so far. I wonder though whether opening
>>>> this up without guest OS consent isn't gong to introduce a security
>>>> issue inside the guest (depending on the exact functionality of these
>>>> hypercalls).
>>> Yes indeed.  VMware seems to have CPL checks on some of the commands
>>> (but not all).  I guess Xen will be no worse than VMware if we do the
>>> same, though I'd like to have an official spec to follow for that.
>> Yes, VMware has CPL checks on some of the commands.  Not at all
>> clear the include file has the correct statement.  I have not do any
>> checking of CPL nor does QEMU.
> That needs to be fixed somewhere.  If Xen/Qemu is going to provide
> this interface it _must_ copy the privilege checks, even if we don't
> understand why they're there -- in fact, _especially_ if we don't
> understand why they're there! :)
>
> If the third-party header file isn't a reliable source, you'll have to
> determine the correct behaviour by experiment.

I have done this.  Will be adding the check.

>> I could look into doing this, but with the xl.cfg flag vmware_port=0
>> turns this all off, I do not see any need for CPL checking.
> I strongly disagree with this.  If our implementation of this
> interface makes guest OSes less secure than they would be under actual
> VMware then the config option is irrelevant.

Ok.

    -Don Slutz

> Cheers,
>
> Tim.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-02 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-20 18:07 [PATCH for-4.5 v6 00/16] Xen VMware tools support Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 01/16] xen: Add support for VMware cpuid leaves Don Slutz
2014-09-22 11:49   ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-22 16:53     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 14:33   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 02/16] tools: Add vmware_hw support Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:34   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 22:08     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 14:44   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 21:06     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 03/16] vmware: Add VMware provided include files Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 04/16] xen: Add vmware_port support Don Slutz
2014-09-23 17:16   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2014-09-24  8:28     ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-26 19:09     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 16:01   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 16:48     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 17:42       ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 05/16] tools: " Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:41   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 16:34     ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-22 21:22       ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 16:24         ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 18:25           ` Don Slutz
2014-09-22 16:42     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-23 12:20       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-24 16:31         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 16:44           ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 18:29             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-25 11:24           ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-25 14:17             ` George Dunlap
2014-09-25 14:21               ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-26 19:19             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 06/16] xen: Convert vmware_port to xentrace usage Don Slutz
2014-09-24 17:27   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 19:07     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-25 15:14       ` George Dunlap
2014-09-29 18:10         ` Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 07/16] tools: " Don Slutz
2014-09-25 15:18   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 08/16] xen: Add limited support of VMware's hyper-call rpc Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:47   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 21:18     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-23 12:34       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-23 22:03         ` Slutz, Donald Christopher
2014-09-25 16:28     ` George Dunlap
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 09/16] tools: " Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:52   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 21:32     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-23 12:35       ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 10/16] Add VMware tool's triggers Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 11/16] Add live migration of VMware's hyper-call RPC Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 12/16] Add dump of HVM_SAVE_CODE(VMPORT) to xen-hvmctx Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [OPTIONAL][PATCH for-4.5 v6 13/16] Add xen-hvm-param Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [OPTIONAL][PATCH for-4.5 v6 14/16] Add xen-vmware-guestinfo Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [OPTIONAL][PATCH for-4.5 v6 15/16] Add xen-list-vmware-guestinfo Don Slutz
2014-09-20 18:07 ` [OPTIONAL][PATCH for-4.5 v6 16/16] Add xen-hvm-send-trigger Don Slutz
2014-09-22 13:56 ` [PATCH for-4.5 v6 00/16] Xen VMware tools support Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 15:19   ` George Dunlap
2014-09-22 15:34     ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 15:38       ` George Dunlap
2014-09-22 15:50         ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 15:55           ` George Dunlap
2014-09-22 17:19             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-22 22:00               ` Tian, Kevin
2014-09-23 12:30               ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-23 12:35                 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-23 12:40                   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-24 15:52                 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-24 18:09                   ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 17:19                 ` Don Slutz
2014-09-24 20:21                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-26 19:03                     ` Don Slutz
2014-09-26 19:28                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-09-25 11:35                   ` Ian Campbell
2014-09-22 16:18         ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-22 18:32           ` Don Slutz
2014-09-25 10:37           ` Tim Deegan
2014-09-26 20:00             ` Don Slutz
2014-09-29  6:50               ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 13:27                 ` George Dunlap
2014-09-29 13:49                   ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-29 23:13                   ` Don Slutz
2014-09-30  7:05                     ` Jan Beulich
2014-09-30 10:02                       ` George Dunlap
2014-09-30 22:11                         ` Slutz, Donald Christopher
2014-09-30 10:09                     ` George Dunlap
2014-09-30 22:23                       ` Slutz, Donald Christopher
2014-10-02 10:05               ` Tim Deegan
2014-10-02 19:20                 ` Don Slutz [this message]
2014-10-03  7:09                   ` Tim Deegan
2014-09-22 15:52       ` Andrew Cooper
2014-09-22 18:39         ` Don Slutz

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