From: Tero Kristo <t-kristo@ti.com>
To: Mike Turquette <mturquette@linaro.org>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Cc: tony@atomide.com, nm@ti.com, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] clk: prevent erronous parsing of children during rate change
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:09:24 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <542913B4.2020808@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140926232453.19023.25483@quantum>
On 09/27/2014 02:24 AM, Mike Turquette wrote:
> Quoting Tero Kristo (2014-09-26 00:18:55)
>> On 09/26/2014 04:35 AM, Stephen Boyd wrote:
>>> On 09/23/14 06:38, Tero Kristo wrote:
>>>> On 09/22/2014 10:18 PM, Stephen Boyd wrote:
>>>>> On 08/21, Tero Kristo wrote:
>>>>>> /* Skip children who will be reparented to another clock */
>>>>>> if (child->new_parent && child->new_parent != clk)
>>>>>> continue;
>>>>>
>>>>> Are we not hitting the new_parent check here? I don't understand
>>>>> how we can be changing parents here unless the check is being
>>>>> avoided, in which case I wonder why determine_rate isn't being
>>>>> used.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It depends how the clock underneath handles the situation. The error I
>>>> am seeing actually happens with a SoC specific compound clock (DPLL)
>>>> which integrates set_rate + mux functionality into a single clock
>>>> node. A call to the clk_set_rate changes the parent of this clock
>>>> (from bypass clock to reference clock), in addition to changing the
>>>> rate (tune the mul+div.) I looked at using the determine rate call
>>>> with this type but it breaks everything up... the parent gets changed
>>>> but not the clock rate, in addition to some other issues.
>>>
>>> Ok. Is this omap3_noncore_dpll_set_rate()?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> > Can we use determine_rate +
>>> clk_set_parent_and_rate()? At least clk_set_parent_and_rate() would
>>> allow us to do the mult+div and the parent in the same op call, although
>>> I don't understand why setting the parent and then setting the rate is
>>> not going to work.
>>
>> Well, setting parent first, then rate later causes problems with the
>> DPLL ending up running with illegal (non-specified) rate, the M+N values
>> are most likely wrong if you just switch from bypass clock to reference
>> clock first without programming the M+N first.
>
> I took a quick look and it still seems to me that the OMAP DPLLs are
> still not modeled properly as mux clocks. Is this correct?
Yeah, they are not mux clocks, but rather a compound of mux + DPLL
multiplier/divider logic. Changing the DPLL to be a separate mux + DPLL
div/mult clock will still have overlapping usage of the DPLL_EN field,
as the DPLL must be in bypass mode during M+N change. Or, should the
DPLL rate change only be allowed if the mux is in bypass setting?
Several drivers still depend on direct dpll clk_set_rate working
'properly' (there are some other issues currently present also which
have nothing to do with the mux behavior.)
> This issue has been lingering for a long time and we can't use
> determine_rate unless that clock has multiple parents. Simply hacking
> knowledge of the parent bypass clock into the .set_rate callback is not
> enough.
If you believe this _must_ be changed, I can take a look at this for
next merge window, but this will cause a DT data compatibility break if
nothing else (personally I don't care about this as I always rebuild DT
blob with kernel, but lots of other people seem to do.)
-Tero
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>>
>> I'm interested in the other issues that you mentioned
>>> too.
>>
>> Mostly these were side-effects from the illegal DPLL setup I guess, like
>> boot hang, failed drivers etc. I didn't really investigate this that
>> much as it is much more simpler just to use safe list iteration here.
>>
>> -Tero
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: t-kristo@ti.com (Tero Kristo)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] clk: prevent erronous parsing of children during rate change
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:09:24 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <542913B4.2020808@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140926232453.19023.25483@quantum>
On 09/27/2014 02:24 AM, Mike Turquette wrote:
> Quoting Tero Kristo (2014-09-26 00:18:55)
>> On 09/26/2014 04:35 AM, Stephen Boyd wrote:
>>> On 09/23/14 06:38, Tero Kristo wrote:
>>>> On 09/22/2014 10:18 PM, Stephen Boyd wrote:
>>>>> On 08/21, Tero Kristo wrote:
>>>>>> /* Skip children who will be reparented to another clock */
>>>>>> if (child->new_parent && child->new_parent != clk)
>>>>>> continue;
>>>>>
>>>>> Are we not hitting the new_parent check here? I don't understand
>>>>> how we can be changing parents here unless the check is being
>>>>> avoided, in which case I wonder why determine_rate isn't being
>>>>> used.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It depends how the clock underneath handles the situation. The error I
>>>> am seeing actually happens with a SoC specific compound clock (DPLL)
>>>> which integrates set_rate + mux functionality into a single clock
>>>> node. A call to the clk_set_rate changes the parent of this clock
>>>> (from bypass clock to reference clock), in addition to changing the
>>>> rate (tune the mul+div.) I looked at using the determine rate call
>>>> with this type but it breaks everything up... the parent gets changed
>>>> but not the clock rate, in addition to some other issues.
>>>
>>> Ok. Is this omap3_noncore_dpll_set_rate()?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> > Can we use determine_rate +
>>> clk_set_parent_and_rate()? At least clk_set_parent_and_rate() would
>>> allow us to do the mult+div and the parent in the same op call, although
>>> I don't understand why setting the parent and then setting the rate is
>>> not going to work.
>>
>> Well, setting parent first, then rate later causes problems with the
>> DPLL ending up running with illegal (non-specified) rate, the M+N values
>> are most likely wrong if you just switch from bypass clock to reference
>> clock first without programming the M+N first.
>
> I took a quick look and it still seems to me that the OMAP DPLLs are
> still not modeled properly as mux clocks. Is this correct?
Yeah, they are not mux clocks, but rather a compound of mux + DPLL
multiplier/divider logic. Changing the DPLL to be a separate mux + DPLL
div/mult clock will still have overlapping usage of the DPLL_EN field,
as the DPLL must be in bypass mode during M+N change. Or, should the
DPLL rate change only be allowed if the mux is in bypass setting?
Several drivers still depend on direct dpll clk_set_rate working
'properly' (there are some other issues currently present also which
have nothing to do with the mux behavior.)
> This issue has been lingering for a long time and we can't use
> determine_rate unless that clock has multiple parents. Simply hacking
> knowledge of the parent bypass clock into the .set_rate callback is not
> enough.
If you believe this _must_ be changed, I can take a look at this for
next merge window, but this will cause a DT data compatibility break if
nothing else (personally I don't care about this as I always rebuild DT
blob with kernel, but lots of other people seem to do.)
-Tero
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>>
>> I'm interested in the other issues that you mentioned
>>> too.
>>
>> Mostly these were side-effects from the illegal DPLL setup I guess, like
>> boot hang, failed drivers etc. I didn't really investigate this that
>> much as it is much more simpler just to use safe list iteration here.
>>
>> -Tero
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Tero Kristo <t-kristo@ti.com>
To: Mike Turquette <mturquette@linaro.org>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
<tony@atomide.com>, <nm@ti.com>,
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] clk: prevent erronous parsing of children during rate change
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:09:24 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <542913B4.2020808@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140926232453.19023.25483@quantum>
On 09/27/2014 02:24 AM, Mike Turquette wrote:
> Quoting Tero Kristo (2014-09-26 00:18:55)
>> On 09/26/2014 04:35 AM, Stephen Boyd wrote:
>>> On 09/23/14 06:38, Tero Kristo wrote:
>>>> On 09/22/2014 10:18 PM, Stephen Boyd wrote:
>>>>> On 08/21, Tero Kristo wrote:
>>>>>> /* Skip children who will be reparented to another clock */
>>>>>> if (child->new_parent && child->new_parent != clk)
>>>>>> continue;
>>>>>
>>>>> Are we not hitting the new_parent check here? I don't understand
>>>>> how we can be changing parents here unless the check is being
>>>>> avoided, in which case I wonder why determine_rate isn't being
>>>>> used.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It depends how the clock underneath handles the situation. The error I
>>>> am seeing actually happens with a SoC specific compound clock (DPLL)
>>>> which integrates set_rate + mux functionality into a single clock
>>>> node. A call to the clk_set_rate changes the parent of this clock
>>>> (from bypass clock to reference clock), in addition to changing the
>>>> rate (tune the mul+div.) I looked at using the determine rate call
>>>> with this type but it breaks everything up... the parent gets changed
>>>> but not the clock rate, in addition to some other issues.
>>>
>>> Ok. Is this omap3_noncore_dpll_set_rate()?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> > Can we use determine_rate +
>>> clk_set_parent_and_rate()? At least clk_set_parent_and_rate() would
>>> allow us to do the mult+div and the parent in the same op call, although
>>> I don't understand why setting the parent and then setting the rate is
>>> not going to work.
>>
>> Well, setting parent first, then rate later causes problems with the
>> DPLL ending up running with illegal (non-specified) rate, the M+N values
>> are most likely wrong if you just switch from bypass clock to reference
>> clock first without programming the M+N first.
>
> I took a quick look and it still seems to me that the OMAP DPLLs are
> still not modeled properly as mux clocks. Is this correct?
Yeah, they are not mux clocks, but rather a compound of mux + DPLL
multiplier/divider logic. Changing the DPLL to be a separate mux + DPLL
div/mult clock will still have overlapping usage of the DPLL_EN field,
as the DPLL must be in bypass mode during M+N change. Or, should the
DPLL rate change only be allowed if the mux is in bypass setting?
Several drivers still depend on direct dpll clk_set_rate working
'properly' (there are some other issues currently present also which
have nothing to do with the mux behavior.)
> This issue has been lingering for a long time and we can't use
> determine_rate unless that clock has multiple parents. Simply hacking
> knowledge of the parent bypass clock into the .set_rate callback is not
> enough.
If you believe this _must_ be changed, I can take a look at this for
next merge window, but this will cause a DT data compatibility break if
nothing else (personally I don't care about this as I always rebuild DT
blob with kernel, but lots of other people seem to do.)
-Tero
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>>
>> I'm interested in the other issues that you mentioned
>>> too.
>>
>> Mostly these were side-effects from the illegal DPLL setup I guess, like
>> boot hang, failed drivers etc. I didn't really investigate this that
>> much as it is much more simpler just to use safe list iteration here.
>>
>> -Tero
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-29 8:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-21 13:47 [PATCH] clk: prevent erronous parsing of children during rate change Tero Kristo
2014-08-21 13:47 ` Tero Kristo
2014-08-21 13:47 ` Tero Kristo
2014-08-21 13:59 ` Nishanth Menon
2014-08-21 13:59 ` Nishanth Menon
2014-08-21 13:59 ` Nishanth Menon
2014-09-03 19:22 ` Mike Turquette
2014-09-03 19:22 ` Mike Turquette
2014-09-17 18:27 ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-17 18:27 ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-17 18:27 ` Felipe Balbi
2014-09-22 19:18 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-22 19:18 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-23 13:38 ` Tero Kristo
2014-09-23 13:38 ` Tero Kristo
2014-09-23 13:38 ` Tero Kristo
2014-09-26 1:35 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-26 1:35 ` Stephen Boyd
2014-09-26 7:18 ` Tero Kristo
2014-09-26 7:18 ` Tero Kristo
2014-09-26 7:18 ` Tero Kristo
2014-09-26 23:24 ` Mike Turquette
2014-09-26 23:24 ` Mike Turquette
2014-09-29 8:09 ` Tero Kristo [this message]
2014-09-29 8:09 ` Tero Kristo
2014-09-29 8:09 ` Tero Kristo
2014-09-30 7:07 ` Mike Turquette
2014-09-30 7:07 ` Mike Turquette
2014-09-30 8:48 ` Tero Kristo
2014-09-30 8:48 ` Tero Kristo
2014-09-30 8:48 ` Tero Kristo
2014-09-30 19:03 ` Mike Turquette
2014-09-30 19:03 ` Mike Turquette
2014-10-02 13:31 ` Tero Kristo
2014-10-02 13:31 ` Tero Kristo
2014-10-02 13:31 ` Tero Kristo
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