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From: Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>
To: jiwang <jiada_wang@mentor.com>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: "alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	"Frkuska, Joshua" <Joshua_Frkuska@mentor.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lgirdwood@gmail.com" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: unload Audio drivers while playback stream is active case kernel crash
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 10:34:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B63828.6030408@metafoo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54B627F0.90207@mentor.com>

On 01/14/2015 09:25 AM, jiwang wrote:
> Hi
>
> On 01/14/2015 05:15 PM, Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
>> On 01/14/2015 08:43 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>> At Tue, 13 Jan 2015 21:54:12 +0000,
>>> Mark Brown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 06:24:44PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>>>> Wang, Jiada (ESD) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I am using i.MX6Q sabreSD board, which have imx_wm892 machine driver,
>>>>>> wm8962 codec and SSI CPU DAI,
>>>>
>>>>>> I got Kernel crash when unloading audio drivers (playback stream is
>>>>>> active)
>>>>>> modprobe -r snd_soc_imx_wm8962
>>>>>> modprobe -r snd_soc_fsl_ssi
>>>>>> modprobe -r snd_soc_wm8962
>>>>
>>>>> The root problem is that you can unload the module while playing.
>>>>> The corresponding module refcounts should have been increased during
>>>>> used.
>>>>
>>>>> Do we miss [try_]module_get() somewhere in ASoC?
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't help, users can still forcibly unbind the driver at runtime
>>>> without loading the module - and there's always the potential for
>>>> actually hotpluggable hardware.  The teardown paths should be able to
>>>> cope somewhat gracefully.
>>>
>>> The module refcount has to be handled while being used for stopping
>>> module unload.  That's irrelevant from the dynamic unbinding support
>>> itself.  Of course, the module refcount doesn't save the world, but
>>> it's the right fix for this particular scenario.
>>
>> Refcounting won't help in this case. The issue is caused by a delayed work
>> item that gets launched when the PCM stream is stopped. So if you decrease
>> the refcount when the stream is stopped you still have a window where it
>> is possible to remove the module while the work is still being scheduled.
>>
>> And while we do flush the scheduled work when we remove the ASoC card this
>> is done before snd_card_free() is called. So when snd_card_free() is
>> called it gets re-scheduled again. I think the correct fix is to add a
>> snd_card_disconnect() at the very top of soc_cleanup_card_resources().
>>
> when stream is active, snd_card_disconnect() will trigger pcm_close() be
> executed by another thread,
> we can't ensure the pcm_close() is executed before the rest of
> soc_cleanup_card_resources().

Hm right, because that only gets called once the userspace application 
finally closes the PCM device. Takashi approach with moving things to the 
card_free callback might work better.

- Lars

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From: Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>
To: jiwang <jiada_wang@mentor.com>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: "alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lgirdwood@gmail.com" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"Frkuska, Joshua" <Joshua_Frkuska@mentor.com>
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] unload Audio drivers while playback stream is active case kernel crash
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 10:34:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B63828.6030408@metafoo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54B627F0.90207@mentor.com>

On 01/14/2015 09:25 AM, jiwang wrote:
> Hi
>
> On 01/14/2015 05:15 PM, Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
>> On 01/14/2015 08:43 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>> At Tue, 13 Jan 2015 21:54:12 +0000,
>>> Mark Brown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 06:24:44PM +0100, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>>>> Wang, Jiada (ESD) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I am using i.MX6Q sabreSD board, which have imx_wm892 machine driver,
>>>>>> wm8962 codec and SSI CPU DAI,
>>>>
>>>>>> I got Kernel crash when unloading audio drivers (playback stream is
>>>>>> active)
>>>>>> modprobe -r snd_soc_imx_wm8962
>>>>>> modprobe -r snd_soc_fsl_ssi
>>>>>> modprobe -r snd_soc_wm8962
>>>>
>>>>> The root problem is that you can unload the module while playing.
>>>>> The corresponding module refcounts should have been increased during
>>>>> used.
>>>>
>>>>> Do we miss [try_]module_get() somewhere in ASoC?
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't help, users can still forcibly unbind the driver at runtime
>>>> without loading the module - and there's always the potential for
>>>> actually hotpluggable hardware.  The teardown paths should be able to
>>>> cope somewhat gracefully.
>>>
>>> The module refcount has to be handled while being used for stopping
>>> module unload.  That's irrelevant from the dynamic unbinding support
>>> itself.  Of course, the module refcount doesn't save the world, but
>>> it's the right fix for this particular scenario.
>>
>> Refcounting won't help in this case. The issue is caused by a delayed work
>> item that gets launched when the PCM stream is stopped. So if you decrease
>> the refcount when the stream is stopped you still have a window where it
>> is possible to remove the module while the work is still being scheduled.
>>
>> And while we do flush the scheduled work when we remove the ASoC card this
>> is done before snd_card_free() is called. So when snd_card_free() is
>> called it gets re-scheduled again. I think the correct fix is to add a
>> snd_card_disconnect() at the very top of soc_cleanup_card_resources().
>>
> when stream is active, snd_card_disconnect() will trigger pcm_close() be
> executed by another thread,
> we can't ensure the pcm_close() is executed before the rest of
> soc_cleanup_card_resources().

Hm right, because that only gets called once the userspace application 
finally closes the PCM device. Takashi approach with moving things to the 
card_free callback might work better.

- Lars


  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-14  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-09 11:39 unload Audio drivers while playback stream is active case kernel crash Wang, Jiada (ESD)
2015-01-09 11:39 ` Wang, Jiada (ESD)
2015-01-13 17:24 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-13 17:24   ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2015-01-13 21:54   ` Mark Brown
2015-01-14  7:43     ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-14  8:15       ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-01-14  8:25         ` jiwang
2015-01-14  8:25           ` [alsa-devel] " jiwang
2015-01-14  9:34           ` Lars-Peter Clausen [this message]
2015-01-14  9:34             ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-01-14  8:47         ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-14 10:00           ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-01-14 10:00             ` [alsa-devel] " Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-01-14 10:50             ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-14 12:02               ` Mark Brown
2015-01-14 12:02                 ` [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2015-01-14 12:57                 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-01-14 12:57                   ` [alsa-devel] " Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-01-14 13:06                   ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-14 13:06                     ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2015-01-14 13:43                   ` Fabio Estevam
2015-01-15  4:40                     ` jiwang
2015-01-15  6:14                       ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-15  6:14                         ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2015-01-15 10:52                       ` Mark Brown
2015-01-14 13:01                 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-01-14 16:34                   ` Mark Brown
2015-01-15  6:21                     ` Takashi Iwai
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2015-01-09 11:49 Wang, Jiada (ESD)

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