From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Kai Huang <kai.huang@linux.intel.com>,
"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
"jbeulich@suse.com" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
"tim@xen.org" <tim@xen.org>, "keir@xen.org" <keir@xen.org>,
"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: PML (Page Modification Logging) design for Xen
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:57:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54DDD8AC.1040102@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54DD5D3D.7000601@linux.intel.com>
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On 13/02/15 02:11, Kai Huang wrote:
>
> On 02/12/2015 10:10 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 12/02/15 06:54, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>>>>> which presumably
>>>>> means that the PML buffer flush needs to be aware of which gfns are
>>>>> mapped by superpages to be able to correctly set a block of bits in the
>>>>> logdirty bitmap.
>>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately PML itself can't tell us if the logged GPA comes from
>>>> superpage or not, but even in PML we still need to split superpages to
>>>> 4K page, just like traditional write protection approach does. I think
>>>> this is because live migration should be based on 4K page granularity.
>>>> Marking all 512 bits of a 2M page to be dirty by a single write doesn't
>>>> make sense in both write protection and PML cases.
>>>>
>>> agree. extending one write to superpage enlarges dirty set unnecessary.
>>> since spec doesn't say superpage logging is not supported, I'd think a
>>> 4k-aligned entry being logged if within superpage.
>> The spec states that an gfn is appended to the log strictly on the
>> transition of the D bit from 0 to 1.
>>
>> In the case of a 2M superpage, there is a single D bit for the entire 2M
>> range.
>>
>>
>> The plausible (working) scenarios I can see are:
>>
>> 1) superpages are not supported (not indicated by the whitepaper).
> A better description would be -- PML doesn't check if it's superpage,
> it just operates with D-bit, no matter what page size.
>> 2) a single entry will be written which must be taken to cover the
>> entire 2M range.
>> 3) an individual entry is written for every access.
> Below is the reply from our hardware guy related to PML on superpage.
> It should have answered accurately.
>
> "As noted in Section 1.3, logging occurs whenever the CPU would set an
> EPT D bit.
>
> It does not matter whether the D bit is in an EPT PTE (4KB page), EPT
> PDE (2MB page), or EPT PDPTE (1GB page).
>
> In all cases, the GPA written to the PML log will be the address of
> the write that causes the D bit in question to be updated, with bits
> 11:0 cleared.
>
> This means that, in the case in which the D bit is in an EPT PDE or an
> EPT PDPTE, the log entry will communicate which 4KB region within the
> larger page was being written.
>
> Once the D bit is set in one of these entries, a subsequent write to
> the larger page will not generate a log entry, even if that write is
> to a different 4KB region within the larger page. This is because log
> entries are created only when a D bit is being set and a write will
> not cause a D bit to be set if the page's D bit is already set.
>
> The log entries do not communicate the level of the EPT
> paging-structure entry in which the D bit was set (i.e., it does not
> communicate the page size). "
Thanks for the clarification.
The result of this behaviour is that the PML flush logic is going to
have to look up each gfn and check whether it is mapped by a superpage,
which will add a sizeable overhead.
It is also not conducive to minimising the data transmitted in the
migration stream.
One future option might be to shatter all the EPT superpages when
logdirty is enabled. This would be ok for a domain which is being
migrated away, but would be suboptiomal for snapshot operations; Xen
currently has no ability to coalesce pages back into superpages. It
also interacts poorly with HAP vram tracking which enables logdirty mode
itself.
~Andrew
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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-11 8:28 PML (Page Modification Logging) design for Xen Kai Huang
2015-02-11 11:52 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-11 13:13 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-11 16:33 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-11 16:55 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-12 2:35 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 6:25 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-02-12 6:45 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 7:08 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-02-12 7:34 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 12:42 ` Tim Deegan
2015-02-13 2:15 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-13 2:28 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-02-17 10:40 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-12 2:39 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 6:54 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-02-12 6:56 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 7:09 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-02-12 7:15 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 14:10 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-13 0:58 ` Bing
2015-02-13 2:11 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-13 10:57 ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2015-02-13 14:32 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-13 15:28 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-13 15:52 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-14 3:01 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-16 11:44 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-16 14:02 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-17 10:37 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-17 10:19 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-17 11:57 ` Tim Deegan
2015-03-11 10:59 ` George Dunlap
2015-03-11 11:11 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-03-11 15:53 ` George Dunlap
2015-03-12 7:36 ` Kai Huang
2015-03-12 11:19 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-03-14 3:04 ` Kai Huang
2015-03-24 6:42 ` Kai Huang
2015-03-24 7:53 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-24 8:06 ` Kai Huang
2015-03-24 8:14 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-24 8:17 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-11 13:06 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-12 2:49 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 5:16 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 7:02 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-02-12 7:04 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-17 10:23 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-01 23:13 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 12:34 ` Tim Deegan
2015-02-13 2:50 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-16 14:01 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-16 18:19 ` Tim Deegan
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