From: Kai Huang <kai.huang@linux.intel.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: andrew.cooper3@citrix.com, kevin.tian@intel.com, keir@xen.org,
tim@xen.org, xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: PML (Page Modification Logging) design for Xen
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 07:13:46 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54F39D2A.9040603@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54E3249A02000078000608A1@mail.emea.novell.com>
On 02/17/2015 06:23 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 12.02.15 at 03:49, <kai.huang@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>> On 02/11/2015 09:06 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 11.02.15 at 09:28, <kai.huang@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>>> - PML buffer flush
>>>>
>>>> There are two places we need to flush PML buffer. The first place is PML
>>>> buffer full VMEXIT handler (apparently), and the second place is in
>>>> paging_log_dirty_op (either peek or clean), as vcpus are running
>>>> asynchronously along with paging_log_dirty_op is called from userspace via
>>>> hypercall, and it's possible there are dirty GPAs logged in vcpus' PML
>>>> buffers but not full. Therefore we'd better to flush all vcpus' PML buffers
>>>> before reporting dirty GPAs to userspace.
>>>>
>>>> We handle above two cases by flushing PML buffer at the beginning of all
>>>> VMEXITs. This solves the first case above, and it also solves the second
>>>> case, as prior to paging_log_dirty_op, domain_pause is called, which kicks
>>>> vcpus (that are in guest mode) out of guest mode via sending IPI, which cause
>>>> VMEXIT, to them.
>>>>
>>>> This also makes log-dirty radix tree more updated as PML buffer is flushed
>>>> on basis of all VMEXITs but not only PML buffer full VMEXIT.
>>> Is that really efficient? Flushing the buffer only as needed doesn't
>>> seem to be a major problem (apart from the usual preemption issue
>>> when dealing with guests with very many vCPU-s, but you certainly
>>> recall that at this point HVM is still limited to 128).
>>>
>>> Apart from these two remarks, the design looks okay to me.
>> While keeping log-dirty radix tree more updated is probably irrelevant,
>> I do think we'd better to flush PML buffers in paging_log_dirty_op (both
>> peek and clear) before reporting dirty pages to userspace, in which case
>> I think flushing PML buffer at beginning of VMEXIT is a good idea, as
>> domain_pause does the job automatically. I am not sure how much cycles
>> will flushing PML buffer contribute but I think it should be relatively
>> small comparing to VMEXIT itself, therefore it can be ignored.
> As far as my general thinking goes, this is the wrong attitude:
> _Anything_ added to a hot path like VMEXIT processing should be
> considered performance relevant. I.e. if everyone took the same
> position as you do, we'd easily get many "negligible" additions, all
> of which would add up to something no longer negligible.
Agreed. I'll do as Tim suggested: flush only on buffer-full VMEXITs and
handle the peek/clear patch by explicitly reading all vcpu's PML buffer.
Thanks,
-Kai
>
> Jan
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-01 23:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-11 8:28 PML (Page Modification Logging) design for Xen Kai Huang
2015-02-11 11:52 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-11 13:13 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-11 16:33 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-11 16:55 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-12 2:35 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 6:25 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-02-12 6:45 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 7:08 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-02-12 7:34 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 12:42 ` Tim Deegan
2015-02-13 2:15 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-13 2:28 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-02-17 10:40 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-12 2:39 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 6:54 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-02-12 6:56 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 7:09 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-02-12 7:15 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 14:10 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-13 0:58 ` Bing
2015-02-13 2:11 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-13 10:57 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-13 14:32 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-13 15:28 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-13 15:52 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-14 3:01 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-16 11:44 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-16 14:02 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-17 10:37 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-17 10:19 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-17 11:57 ` Tim Deegan
2015-03-11 10:59 ` George Dunlap
2015-03-11 11:11 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-03-11 15:53 ` George Dunlap
2015-03-12 7:36 ` Kai Huang
2015-03-12 11:19 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-03-14 3:04 ` Kai Huang
2015-03-24 6:42 ` Kai Huang
2015-03-24 7:53 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-24 8:06 ` Kai Huang
2015-03-24 8:14 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-24 8:17 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-11 13:06 ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-12 2:49 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 5:16 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-12 7:02 ` Tian, Kevin
2015-02-12 7:04 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-17 10:23 ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-01 23:13 ` Kai Huang [this message]
2015-02-12 12:34 ` Tim Deegan
2015-02-13 2:50 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-16 14:01 ` Kai Huang
2015-02-16 18:19 ` Tim Deegan
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