From: Dave Hansen <dave@sr71.net>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] [RFC] x86: Memory Protection Keys
Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 12:40:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <554BBFA8.3010607@sr71.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150507192619.GA23338@gmail.com>
On 05/07/2015 12:26 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> The Valgrind usecase looks somewhat legit, albeit not necessarily for
> multithreaded apps: there you generally really want protection changes
> to be globally visible, such as publishing the effects of free() or
> malloc().
I guess we could theoretically have an IPC of some kind that voluntarily
broadcasts changes so that we can be guaranteed that other threads see it.
> Also, will apps/libraries bother if it's not a standard API and if it
> only runs on very fresh CPUs?
It's always a problem with new CPU features.
I've thought a bit about trying to "emulate" the feature on older CPUs
using good ol' mprotect() so that we could have an API that folks can
use _today_, but that would get magically fast on future CPUs. But, the
problem with that is the thread-local aspect.
mprotect() is fundamentally process-wide and protection keys right are
fundamentally thread-local. Those things are going to be hard to
reconcile unless we do something slightly extreme like having per-thread
page tables.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-07 19:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-07 17:41 [PATCH 00/12] [RFC] x86: Memory Protection Keys Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 01/12] x86, pkeys: cpuid bit definition Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 02/12] x86, pku: define new CR4 bit Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 06/12] x86, pkeys: store protection in high VMA flags Dave Hansen
2015-05-15 21:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-05-15 21:13 ` Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 03/12] x86, pkey: pkru xsave fields and data structure Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 05/12] x86, pkeys: new page fault error code bit: PF_PK Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 04/12] x86, pkeys: PTE bits Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 08/12] x86, pkeys: arch-specific protection bits Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 07/12] mm: Pass the 4-bit protection key in via PROT_ bits to syscalls Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 19:11 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-05-07 19:19 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-04 20:13 ` Florian Weimer
2015-09-04 20:18 ` Dave Hansen
2015-09-04 20:34 ` Florian Weimer
2015-09-04 20:41 ` Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 11/12] x86, pkeys: actually enable Memory Protection Keys in CPU Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 10/12] x86, pkeys: differentiate Protection Key faults from normal Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 12/12] x86, pkeys: Documentation Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 17:41 ` [PATCH 09/12] x86, pkeys: notify userspace about protection key faults Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 17:57 ` [PATCH 00/12] [RFC] x86: Memory Protection Keys Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 18:09 ` Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 18:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-05-07 21:45 ` Dave Hansen
2015-05-09 19:09 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-05-07 19:18 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-05-07 19:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-07 19:40 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2015-05-07 20:11 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-05-08 4:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-08 6:09 ` Kevin Easton
2015-05-07 19:22 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-05-07 19:29 ` Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 19:45 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-05-07 19:49 ` Dave Hansen
2015-05-07 19:57 ` Christian Borntraeger
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