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From: Jonathan Richardson <jonathar-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Scott Branden <sbranden-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dtor-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Anatol Pomazau <anatol-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"Pawel Moll" <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Ian Campbell
	<ijc+devicetree-KcIKpvwj1kUDXYZnReoRVg@public.gmane.org>,
	Kumar Gala <galak-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>,
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	<linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list
	<bcm-kernel-feedback-list-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] spi: bcm-mspi: Add support for Broadcom MSPI driver.
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 12:55:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5554FDB4.50809@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150514190823.GR2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>

On 15-05-14 12:08 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:19:01AM -0700, Scott Branden wrote:
>> On 15-05-14 03:31 AM, Mark Brown wrote:
> 
>>> Chip vendors often say this sort of thing and then get surprised by what
>>> their users choose to do, and even if it only ever gets used with flash
>>> all it would take is some new flash command which can use full duplex
>>> for something.  Please write the code so it at least tries to handle
>>> full duplex operation, if you can't test it fully that's not the end of
>>> the world.  It doesn't look like it should be particularly difficult.
> 
>> Yes, there is always room for improvements in code.  In this case - it
>> really is not worth our time to add code we can't test.  We try to deliver
>> code that we can test and actually works.  Yes, if anyone needs to use the
> 
> While I try to not apply code that has obvious problems with silent data
> corruption in it which is what we have just now.
> 
>> mspi for full duplex operation code can be added in the future - it is
>> software.  This block has gone through many generations of our SoCs and has
>> only been used for this purpose - the bootROM boots from this SPI only.  It
>> is dedicated for this purpose.
> 
> All it takes is one hardware engineer who sees a SPI controller and a
> GPIO they can use for chip select; I wouldn't be so sure that nobody
> ever fixed this up locally (or happened to use a device that only needed
> single duplex).
> 

Hi Mark. Would it help if we just set the flags to half duplex using
SPI_MASTER_HALF_DUPLEX when we register the master?
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From: Jonathan Richardson <jonathar-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Scott Branden <sbranden-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dtor-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Anatol Pomazau <anatol-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Ian Campbell
	<ijc+devicetree-KcIKpvwj1kUDXYZnReoRVg@public.gmane.org>,
	Kumar Gala <galak-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list
	<bcm-kernel-feedback-list-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] spi: bcm-mspi: Add support for Broadcom MSPI driver.
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 12:55:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5554FDB4.50809@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150514190823.GR2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>

On 15-05-14 12:08 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:19:01AM -0700, Scott Branden wrote:
>> On 15-05-14 03:31 AM, Mark Brown wrote:
> 
>>> Chip vendors often say this sort of thing and then get surprised by what
>>> their users choose to do, and even if it only ever gets used with flash
>>> all it would take is some new flash command which can use full duplex
>>> for something.  Please write the code so it at least tries to handle
>>> full duplex operation, if you can't test it fully that's not the end of
>>> the world.  It doesn't look like it should be particularly difficult.
> 
>> Yes, there is always room for improvements in code.  In this case - it
>> really is not worth our time to add code we can't test.  We try to deliver
>> code that we can test and actually works.  Yes, if anyone needs to use the
> 
> While I try to not apply code that has obvious problems with silent data
> corruption in it which is what we have just now.
> 
>> mspi for full duplex operation code can be added in the future - it is
>> software.  This block has gone through many generations of our SoCs and has
>> only been used for this purpose - the bootROM boots from this SPI only.  It
>> is dedicated for this purpose.
> 
> All it takes is one hardware engineer who sees a SPI controller and a
> GPIO they can use for chip select; I wouldn't be so sure that nobody
> ever fixed this up locally (or happened to use a device that only needed
> single duplex).
> 

Hi Mark. Would it help if we just set the flags to half duplex using
SPI_MASTER_HALF_DUPLEX when we register the master?
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From: Jonathan Richardson <jonathar@broadcom.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Scott Branden <sbranden@broadcom.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@google.com>,
	Anatol Pomazau <anatol@google.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Pawel Moll" <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list <bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com>,
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] spi: bcm-mspi: Add support for Broadcom MSPI driver.
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 12:55:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5554FDB4.50809@broadcom.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150514190823.GR2761@sirena.org.uk>

On 15-05-14 12:08 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:19:01AM -0700, Scott Branden wrote:
>> On 15-05-14 03:31 AM, Mark Brown wrote:
> 
>>> Chip vendors often say this sort of thing and then get surprised by what
>>> their users choose to do, and even if it only ever gets used with flash
>>> all it would take is some new flash command which can use full duplex
>>> for something.  Please write the code so it at least tries to handle
>>> full duplex operation, if you can't test it fully that's not the end of
>>> the world.  It doesn't look like it should be particularly difficult.
> 
>> Yes, there is always room for improvements in code.  In this case - it
>> really is not worth our time to add code we can't test.  We try to deliver
>> code that we can test and actually works.  Yes, if anyone needs to use the
> 
> While I try to not apply code that has obvious problems with silent data
> corruption in it which is what we have just now.
> 
>> mspi for full duplex operation code can be added in the future - it is
>> software.  This block has gone through many generations of our SoCs and has
>> only been used for this purpose - the bootROM boots from this SPI only.  It
>> is dedicated for this purpose.
> 
> All it takes is one hardware engineer who sees a SPI controller and a
> GPIO they can use for chip select; I wouldn't be so sure that nobody
> ever fixed this up locally (or happened to use a device that only needed
> single duplex).
> 

Hi Mark. Would it help if we just set the flags to half duplex using
SPI_MASTER_HALF_DUPLEX when we register the master?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-14 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-12 17:38 [PATCH 0/2] Add Broadcom MSPI driver Jonathan Richardson
2015-05-12 17:38 ` Jonathan Richardson
2015-05-12 17:38 ` Jonathan Richardson
2015-05-12 17:38 ` [PATCH 1/2] ARM: dts: Add binding for " Jonathan Richardson
2015-05-12 17:38   ` Jonathan Richardson
     [not found]   ` <1431452293-16697-2-git-send-email-jonathar-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-12 18:38     ` Florian Fainelli
2015-05-12 18:38       ` Florian Fainelli
2015-05-12 17:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] spi: bcm-mspi: Add support " Jonathan Richardson
2015-05-12 17:38   ` Jonathan Richardson
     [not found]   ` <1431452293-16697-3-git-send-email-jonathar-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-12 18:46     ` Florian Fainelli
2015-05-12 18:46       ` Florian Fainelli
2015-05-12 19:17     ` Mark Brown
2015-05-12 19:17       ` Mark Brown
     [not found]       ` <20150512191718.GW3066-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 23:49         ` Jonathan Richardson
2015-05-13 23:49           ` Jonathan Richardson
2015-05-13 23:49           ` Jonathan Richardson
     [not found]           ` <5553E31A.8060309-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14  0:19             ` Scott Branden
2015-05-14  0:19               ` Scott Branden
2015-05-14  0:19               ` Scott Branden
2015-05-14 10:31               ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                 ` <20150514103144.GO2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 18:19                   ` Scott Branden
2015-05-14 18:19                     ` Scott Branden
2015-05-14 18:19                     ` Scott Branden
     [not found]                     ` <5554E715.7070203-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 18:28                       ` Florian Fainelli
2015-05-14 18:28                         ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]                         ` <5554E957.3030809-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 18:36                           ` Scott Branden
2015-05-14 18:36                             ` Scott Branden
2015-05-14 18:36                             ` Scott Branden
     [not found]                             ` <5554EB49.9020601-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 18:55                               ` Jonathan Richardson
2015-05-14 18:55                                 ` Jonathan Richardson
2015-05-14 18:55                                 ` Jonathan Richardson
2015-05-14 19:08                       ` Mark Brown
2015-05-14 19:08                         ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                         ` <20150514190823.GR2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 19:55                           ` Jonathan Richardson [this message]
2015-05-14 19:55                             ` Jonathan Richardson
2015-05-14 19:55                             ` Jonathan Richardson
2015-05-14 20:12                             ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                               ` <20150514201221.GX2761-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 21:43                                 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-05-14 21:43                                   ` Florian Fainelli

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