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From: David Vrabel <dvrabel@cantab.net>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "security@kernel.org" <security@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v4 0/3] x86: modify_ldt improvement, test, and config option
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:46:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55B957DE.60405@cantab.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B94F9D.3000405@citrix.com>



On 29/07/2015 23:11, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 29/07/2015 23:05, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Cooper
>> <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> On 29/07/2015 22:26, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Boris Ostrovsky
>>>> <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 07/29/2015 03:03 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>>>> On 29/07/15 15:43, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>>>>> FYI, I have got a repro now and am investigating.
>>>>>> Good and bad news.  This bug has nothing to do with LDTs themselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have worked out what is going on, but this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c b/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c
>>>>>> index 5abeaac..7e1a82e 100644
>>>>>> --- a/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c
>>>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c
>>>>>> @@ -493,6 +493,7 @@ static void set_aliased_prot(void *v, pgprot_t prot)
>>>>>>            pte = pfn_pte(pfn, prot);
>>>>>>   +       (void)*(volatile int*)v;
>>>>>>          if (HYPERVISOR_update_va_mapping((unsigned long)v, pte, 0)) {
>>>>>>                  pr_err("set_aliased_prot va update failed w/ lazy mode
>>>>>> %u\n", paravirt_get_lazy_mode());
>>>>>>                  BUG();
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is perhaps not the fix we are looking for, and every use of
>>>>>> HYPERVISOR_update_va_mapping() is susceptible to the same problem.
>>>>> I think in most cases we know that page is mapped so hopefully this is the
>>>>> only site that we need to be careful about.
>>>> Is there any chance we can get some kind of quick-and-dirty fix that
>>>> can go to x86/urgent in the next few days even if a clean fix isn't
>>>> available yet?
>>> Quick and dirty?
>>>
>>> Reading from v is the most obvious and quick way, for areas where we are
>>> certain v exists, is kernel memory and is expected to have a backing
>>> page.  I don't know offhand how many of current
>>> HYPERVISOR_update_va_mapping() callsites this applies to.
>> __get_user((char *)v, tmp), perhaps, unless there's something better
>> in the wings.  Keep in mind that we need this for -stable, and it's
>> likely to get backported quite quickly due to CVE-2015-5157.
> 
> Hmm - something like that tucked inside HYPERVISOR_update_va_mapping()
> would probably work, and certainly be minimal hassle for -stable.
> 
> Altering the hypercall used is certainly not something to backport, nor
> are we sure it is a viable fix at this time.

Changing this one use of update_va_mapping to use mmu_update_normal_pt
is the correct fix to unblock this LDT series.  I see no reason why this
cannot be backported.

We can address any other potential update_va_mapping calls at a later
date (if they are shown to be problematic).

David

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From: David Vrabel <dvrabel@cantab.net>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "security@kernel.org" <security@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/3] x86: modify_ldt improvement, test, and config option
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:46:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55B957DE.60405@cantab.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B94F9D.3000405@citrix.com>



On 29/07/2015 23:11, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 29/07/2015 23:05, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Cooper
>> <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> On 29/07/2015 22:26, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Boris Ostrovsky
>>>> <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 07/29/2015 03:03 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>>>> On 29/07/15 15:43, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>>>>> FYI, I have got a repro now and am investigating.
>>>>>> Good and bad news.  This bug has nothing to do with LDTs themselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have worked out what is going on, but this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c b/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c
>>>>>> index 5abeaac..7e1a82e 100644
>>>>>> --- a/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c
>>>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/xen/enlighten.c
>>>>>> @@ -493,6 +493,7 @@ static void set_aliased_prot(void *v, pgprot_t prot)
>>>>>>            pte = pfn_pte(pfn, prot);
>>>>>>   +       (void)*(volatile int*)v;
>>>>>>          if (HYPERVISOR_update_va_mapping((unsigned long)v, pte, 0)) {
>>>>>>                  pr_err("set_aliased_prot va update failed w/ lazy mode
>>>>>> %u\n", paravirt_get_lazy_mode());
>>>>>>                  BUG();
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is perhaps not the fix we are looking for, and every use of
>>>>>> HYPERVISOR_update_va_mapping() is susceptible to the same problem.
>>>>> I think in most cases we know that page is mapped so hopefully this is the
>>>>> only site that we need to be careful about.
>>>> Is there any chance we can get some kind of quick-and-dirty fix that
>>>> can go to x86/urgent in the next few days even if a clean fix isn't
>>>> available yet?
>>> Quick and dirty?
>>>
>>> Reading from v is the most obvious and quick way, for areas where we are
>>> certain v exists, is kernel memory and is expected to have a backing
>>> page.  I don't know offhand how many of current
>>> HYPERVISOR_update_va_mapping() callsites this applies to.
>> __get_user((char *)v, tmp), perhaps, unless there's something better
>> in the wings.  Keep in mind that we need this for -stable, and it's
>> likely to get backported quite quickly due to CVE-2015-5157.
> 
> Hmm - something like that tucked inside HYPERVISOR_update_va_mapping()
> would probably work, and certainly be minimal hassle for -stable.
> 
> Altering the hypercall used is certainly not something to backport, nor
> are we sure it is a viable fix at this time.

Changing this one use of update_va_mapping to use mmu_update_normal_pt
is the correct fix to unblock this LDT series.  I see no reason why this
cannot be backported.

We can address any other potential update_va_mapping calls at a later
date (if they are shown to be problematic).

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-29 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-25  5:36 [PATCH v4 0/3] x86: modify_ldt improvement, test, and config option Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-25  5:36 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] x86/ldt: Make modify_ldt synchronous Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-25  9:03   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-25  9:03   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-25  5:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-25  5:36 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] x86/ldt: Make modify_ldt optional Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-25  5:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-25  6:23   ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-25  6:23   ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-25  6:44     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-25  7:50       ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-25 13:03         ` [PATCH 4/3] x86/ldt: allow to disable modify_ldt at runtime Willy Tarreau
2015-07-25 13:03         ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-25 16:08           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-25 16:33             ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-25 16:33             ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-25 17:42               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-25 18:45                 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-25 18:45                 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-25 17:42               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-25 16:08           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-27 19:04           ` Kees Cook
2015-07-27 19:04           ` Kees Cook
2015-07-27 21:37             ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-27 21:37             ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-25  7:50       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] x86/ldt: Make modify_ldt optional Willy Tarreau
2015-07-25  6:44     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-25  9:15   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-25  9:15   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-25 16:03     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-25 16:35       ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-25 16:35       ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-25 16:03     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-25  5:36 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] selftests/x86, x86/ldt: Add a selftest for modify_ldt Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-25  5:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-27 15:52   ` [PATCH v4.1 3.3] " Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-27 15:52   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-25  6:27 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] x86: modify_ldt improvement, test, and config option Willy Tarreau
2015-07-25  6:27 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-27 15:36 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-27 15:53   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-27 16:18     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-27 16:18     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-28  2:20       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28  2:20       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28  3:16         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28  3:23           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28  3:23           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28  3:43           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-28  3:43           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-28 10:29           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28 10:29           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28 14:05             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-28 14:35               ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28 14:50                 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-28 14:50                 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-28 15:15                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-28 15:39                     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-28 15:39                     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-28 15:15                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-28 15:23                   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28 15:23                   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28 15:59                     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-28 15:59                     ` [Xen-devel] " Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-28 14:35               ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28 14:05             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-28 15:43             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 15:43             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 16:30               ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28 17:07                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 17:07                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 17:10                   ` [Xen-devel] " Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-29  0:21                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29  0:47                       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-29  3:01                         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-29  3:01                         ` [Xen-devel] " Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-29  4:26                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29  4:26                           ` [Xen-devel] " Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29  5:28                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29 14:21                             ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-29 14:43                               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-29 19:03                                 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-29 21:23                                   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-29 21:23                                   ` [Xen-devel] " Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-29 21:26                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29 21:26                                     ` [Xen-devel] " Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29 21:33                                       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-29 21:33                                       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-29 21:37                                       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-29 21:37                                       ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2015-07-29 22:05                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29 22:11                                           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-29 22:40                                             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-29 22:40                                             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-29 22:46                                             ` David Vrabel [this message]
2015-07-29 22:46                                               ` David Vrabel
2015-07-29 22:49                                               ` [Xen-devel] " Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-29 22:55                                                 ` David Vrabel
2015-07-29 22:55                                                 ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2015-07-29 23:02                                                 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-29 23:02                                                 ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2015-07-29 23:13                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29 23:13                                                   ` [Xen-devel] " Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-30  0:29                                                     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-30  0:29                                                     ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2015-07-30 18:30                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-30 18:54                                                         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-30 20:01                                                           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-30 20:01                                                           ` [Xen-devel] " Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-30 20:05                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-30 20:18                                                               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-30 20:18                                                               ` [Xen-devel] " Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-30 20:05                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-30 18:54                                                         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-30 18:30                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29 22:49                                               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-29 22:11                                           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-29 22:05                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29 19:03                                 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-29 14:43                               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-29 14:21                             ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-29  5:28                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-29  0:47                       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-29  0:21                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-28 17:10                   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-28 16:30               ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-28  3:16         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-27 15:53   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-27 15:36 ` Boris Ostrovsky

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