From: Hanjun Guo <hanjun.guo@linaro.org>
To: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, Tomasz Nowicki <tn@semihalf.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
linaro-acpi@lists.linaro.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] acpi: Add basic device probing infrastructure
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 21:01:20 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55EEDC20.6050803@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55EEB125.1030708@arm.com>
On 09/08/2015 05:57 PM, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On 07/09/15 22:29, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Friday, September 04, 2015 06:06:48 PM Marc Zyngier wrote:
>>> IRQ controllers and timers are the two types of device the kernel
>>> requires before being able to use the device driver model.
>>>
>>> ACPI so far lacks a proper probing infrastructure similar to the one
>>> we have with DT, where we're able to declare IRQ chips and
>>> clocksources inside the driver code, and let the core code pick it up
>>> and call us back on a match. This leads to all kind of really ugly
>>> hacks all over the arm64 code and even in the ACPI layer.
>>>
>>> In order to allow some basic probing based on the ACPI tables,
>>> introduce "struct acpi_probe_entry" which contains just enough
>>> data and callbacks to match a table, an optional subtable, and
>>> call a probe function. A driver can, at build time, register itself
>>> and expect being called if the right entry exists in the ACPI
>>> table.
>>>
>>> A acpi_probe_device_init() is provided, taking an ACPI table
>>> identifier, and iterating over the registered entries.
>>
>> What about things that are provided by the ACPI namespace (eg. via _MAT) rather
>> than in static tables?
>
> By the time we get to process non-static tables, the whole probing
> infrastructure (including the ACPI interpreter) should be up and
> running. I'm not seeing this stuff as a replacement for more dynamic
> things - quite the opposite. It is only to be used for early bring-up.
Yes, this framework is for static tables and used at boot time,
sometimes quite early, which is before acpi_early_init().
But for _MAT (which is used for dynamic device configuration), it's
really a good question, I think _MAT is mainly for CPU hotplug, and
it's not related to this framework (for GIC init and clock source).
To hot add/remove a whole ARM SoC with _MAT, I think we need more
time to make the spec ready first, that's long term work, and agian
it's nothing to do with this infrastructure if I understand correctly :)
Thanks
Hanjun
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From: hanjun.guo@linaro.org (Hanjun Guo)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/5] acpi: Add basic device probing infrastructure
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 21:01:20 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55EEDC20.6050803@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55EEB125.1030708@arm.com>
On 09/08/2015 05:57 PM, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On 07/09/15 22:29, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Friday, September 04, 2015 06:06:48 PM Marc Zyngier wrote:
>>> IRQ controllers and timers are the two types of device the kernel
>>> requires before being able to use the device driver model.
>>>
>>> ACPI so far lacks a proper probing infrastructure similar to the one
>>> we have with DT, where we're able to declare IRQ chips and
>>> clocksources inside the driver code, and let the core code pick it up
>>> and call us back on a match. This leads to all kind of really ugly
>>> hacks all over the arm64 code and even in the ACPI layer.
>>>
>>> In order to allow some basic probing based on the ACPI tables,
>>> introduce "struct acpi_probe_entry" which contains just enough
>>> data and callbacks to match a table, an optional subtable, and
>>> call a probe function. A driver can, at build time, register itself
>>> and expect being called if the right entry exists in the ACPI
>>> table.
>>>
>>> A acpi_probe_device_init() is provided, taking an ACPI table
>>> identifier, and iterating over the registered entries.
>>
>> What about things that are provided by the ACPI namespace (eg. via _MAT) rather
>> than in static tables?
>
> By the time we get to process non-static tables, the whole probing
> infrastructure (including the ACPI interpreter) should be up and
> running. I'm not seeing this stuff as a replacement for more dynamic
> things - quite the opposite. It is only to be used for early bring-up.
Yes, this framework is for static tables and used at boot time,
sometimes quite early, which is before acpi_early_init().
But for _MAT (which is used for dynamic device configuration), it's
really a good question, I think _MAT is mainly for CPU hotplug, and
it's not related to this framework (for GIC init and clock source).
To hot add/remove a whole ARM SoC with _MAT, I think we need more
time to make the spec ready first, that's long term work, and agian
it's nothing to do with this infrastructure if I understand correctly :)
Thanks
Hanjun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-08 13:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-04 17:06 [PATCH 0/5] ACPI probing infrastructure Marc Zyngier
2015-09-04 17:06 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-09-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 1/5] acpi: Add basic device " Marc Zyngier
2015-09-04 17:06 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-09-07 16:00 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-09-07 16:00 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-09-07 17:35 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-09-07 17:35 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-09-07 21:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-09-07 21:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-09-08 9:57 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-09-08 9:57 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-09-08 13:01 ` Hanjun Guo [this message]
2015-09-08 13:01 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-09-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 2/5] irqchip/acpi: Add probing infrastructure for ACPI-based irqchips Marc Zyngier
2015-09-04 17:06 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-09-04 17:06 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-09-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 3/5] irqchip/gic: Convert the GIC driver to ACPI probing Marc Zyngier
2015-09-04 17:06 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-09-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 4/5] clocksource/acpi: Add probing infrastructure for ACPI-based clocksources Marc Zyngier
2015-09-04 17:06 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-09-04 17:06 ` [PATCH 5/5] clocksource/arm_arch_timer: Convert to ACPI probing Marc Zyngier
2015-09-04 17:06 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-09-07 6:58 ` [PATCH 0/5] ACPI probing infrastructure Tomasz Nowicki
2015-09-07 6:58 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-09-08 14:38 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-09-08 14:38 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2015-09-07 21:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-09-07 21:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-09-08 9:45 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-09-08 9:45 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-09-08 22:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-09-08 22:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-09-08 13:19 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-09-08 13:19 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-09-10 9:03 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-09-10 9:03 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-09-11 14:06 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-09-11 14:06 ` Marc Zyngier
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