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From: Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@ti.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>, Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>,
	linux-mmc <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>, "arm@kernel.org" <arm@kernel.org>,
	linux-omap <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: All OMAP platforms: MMC is broken
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 06:16:19 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5615BCDB.9080701@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151006195742.GH21626@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

Hi,

On Wednesday 07 October 2015 01:27 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 12:59:29AM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tuesday 06 October 2015 08:37 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 04:06:09PM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday 06 October 2015 03:41 PM, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>>>> On 6 October 2015 at 11:44, Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com> wrote:
>>>>>> * Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> [151006 02:04]:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 07:38:13PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 10:11:56AM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote:
>>>>>>>>> * Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com> [151005 07:57]:
>>>>>>>>>> * Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com> [151005 07:44]:
>>>>>>>>>>> * Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com> [151005 04:28]:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Based on some tests it seems that the duovero unpaired regulator usage
>>>>>>>>>>> is fixed by reverting:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> c55d7a055364 ("mmc: host: omap_hsmmc: use regulator_is_enabled to
>>>>>>>>>>> find pbias status")
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With commit c55d7a055364 my guess is that the PBIAS regulator is
>>>>>>>>>> already on from an earlier MMC probe and getting re-enabled when
>>>>>>>>>> a deferred probe happens?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unless somebody has a better fix in mind for the above, I suggest
>>>>>>>>> we revert it for the -rc kernel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me try reverting that in my build tree, and...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And it seems that omap3 legacy MMC is broken earlier in the
>>>>>>>>>>> series with:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 7d607f917008 ("mmc: host: omap_hsmmc: use
>>>>>>>>>>> devm_regulator_get_optional() for vmmc")
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This one does not cleanly revert so have not yet tried reverting
>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And with commit 7d607f917008 I'm guessing we can't return anHi,
>>>>>>>>>> error if the PBIAS regulator does not exist as that's not there
>>>>>>>>>> for the legacy booting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For omap3 legacy booting, we keep getting -EPROBE_DEFER for
>>>>>>>>> all the optional regulators.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Something like the following might be the minimal fix for the -rc
>>>>>>>>> cycle?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> applying this patch.  If that gets things going again, then we
>>>>>>>> _definitely_ should get both of these to Linus ASAP.  The breakage
>>>>>>>> has been around far too long already.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Last night's build shows that this fixes the non-DT LDP3430 booting, but
>>>>>>> DT-based LDP3430 and SDP4430 both remain broken for the same reason -
>>>>>>> neither can find their SD cards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm DT-based boot finds the MMC card for LDP, dmesg below from DT boot [1].
>>>>>> Looks like you're on on -rc4 and not -rc3. My guess is that MMC is not
>>>>>> working for you with DT-based booting because you don't seem to have
>>>>>> CONFIG_REGULATOR_PBIAS in your seed config for. Care to try enabling that
>>>>>> for both your omap3 and omap4 seed config files?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We're at -rc4.  That means we're could be only three weeks away from 4.3
>>>>>>> being released, and DT OMAP has yet to boot _once_ here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I find *totally* unacceptable is the lack of reaction from the MMC
>>>>>>> and TI people: it's just like "we'll break your crap, and we'll ignore
>>>>>>> reports of regressions."  That is *not* acceptable in any shape or form,
>>>>>>> and people who do this _should_ have their future patches ignored until
>>>>>>> they demonstrate that they understand the need to not break stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm at the point of suggesting that there should be a moritorium on all
>>>>>>> OMAP related development for 4.4: delay all development to 4.5, and have
>>>>>>> 4.4 as a pure bug-fixing _only_ cycle for OMAP.  If 4.3 is released and
>>>>>>> OMAP is still broken, then I don't think there's an option on that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe the idea that development work won't hit mainline for another 4
>>>>>>> months will help focus the minds on not breaking stuff and then ignoring
>>>>>>> regression reports.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking along the same lines. In general, I do not and will not
>>>>>> apply any patches that are not fixes until all critical regressions are
>>>>>> out of the way. So not applying anything new for v4.4 until these MMC
>>>>>> regressions are fixed for v4.3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony, Russell - just wanted to say thanks for putting a big effort in
>>>>> fixing this. I was expecting support from Kishon, but I guess he's
>>>>> busy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunate, I don't have any of the hardware that fails, otherwise I
>>>>> would of course be helping out more. The only thing I can think of is
>>>>> to revert the entire patchset I picked up for 4.3 from Kishon for the
>>>>> omap_hsmmc driver, but then I am not sure if that would cause other
>>>>> issues...
>>>>
>>>> Please don't do that as that will just mask lot of bugs in the
>>>> devicetree and might get MMC working. Indeed I was busy but I'll try to
>>>> get this resolved asap. The 2 pending issues as far as I know
>>>
>>> Sorry, but no.  None of this "mask bugs ... might" crap.  Either they're
>>> bug fixes, or they aren't bug fixes.  This should be a definite decision,
>>> not some vague crap.
>>
>> What I meant is the patches merged by Ulf *did* exposed bugs in device
>> tree (for instance a dt patch caused PBIAS regulator from not being
>> registered) and if those patches are reverted then a future dt breakage
>> might again be not caught.
> 
> That makes it even worse then.
> 
> What you seem to be saying now is that the old DT files were wrong, and
> you've fixed the DT files up in the latest kernel.  You've also changed
> the kernel in a way to make the old DT files fail.

I'll try to explain the changes that went in MMC driver, PBIAS regulator
driver and devicetree.

******
MMC controller in OMAP platforms uses PBIAS to know when the voltage to
the IO lines are stable. So PBIAS regulator device tree node was added
(as a child node of ocp), CONFIG_PBIAS_REGULATOR was added to
omap2plus_defconfig and code to get and enable pbias regulator was added
in MMC driver. But then error checking in MMC driver wasn't correct. It
was something like this

        reg = devm_regulator_get_optional(host->dev, "pbias");
        host->pbias = IS_ERR(reg) ? NULL : reg;

For *any* errors it just sets pbias to NULL and proceeds normally.

With this code the behavior is same if CONFIG_PBIAS_REGULATOR is either
set or unset. The behavior is same if pbias driver gets probed properly
or not.

******
Then certain modifications were done in devicetree in order to correctly
model users of syscon registers. With this pbias regulator device tree
node was made as child node of scm_conf node.

This resulted in pbias device not being created (fixed by [1]), probe of
pbias regulator driver fails while doing platform_get_resource (fixed by
[2]) and pbias regulator enable was failing (fixed by [3])

[1] -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/7/27/391
[2] -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/9/4/210
[3] -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/9/4/205

But even without any of these fixes MMC continued to work because error
checking in MMC driver was not proper.

******
Along with PBIAS fixes, patches were sent to clean-up and fix MMC [4].
With this series MMC fails on real failures like if "pbias-supply"
property is populated in MMC dt node, then MMC driver will fail if it
doesn't get the pbias regulator (which means now if
CONFIG_PBIAS_REGULATOR is not enabled, MMC driver will fail if it finds
pbias-supply property in devicetree node). Since omap2plus_defconfig
already had CONFIG_PBIAS_REGULATOR, it was added for multi_v7_defconfig [5].

However not adding this detail in *Documentation* resulted in MMC
failures and $subject.

[4] -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/8/27/122
[5] -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/9/3/119

> 
> That's totally unacceptable.  Users have the right to expect that old DT
> files work with later kernels.
> 
> It's fine to detect the broken DT files and print a warning, and have
> the kernel fix up the breakage, but it is unacceptable to decide that
> old DT files are broken and to then change stuff to prevent them working
> with later kernels.

No, we didn't break old DT files. We added new compatible string to
handle newer DT [6]

[6] -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/9/3/51

Thanks
Kishon

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From: kishon@ti.com (Kishon Vijay Abraham I)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: All OMAP platforms: MMC is broken
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 06:16:19 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5615BCDB.9080701@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151006195742.GH21626@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

Hi,

On Wednesday 07 October 2015 01:27 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 12:59:29AM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tuesday 06 October 2015 08:37 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 04:06:09PM +0530, Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday 06 October 2015 03:41 PM, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>>>> On 6 October 2015 at 11:44, Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com> wrote:
>>>>>> * Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> [151006 02:04]:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 07:38:13PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 10:11:56AM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote:
>>>>>>>>> * Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com> [151005 07:57]:
>>>>>>>>>> * Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com> [151005 07:44]:
>>>>>>>>>>> * Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com> [151005 04:28]:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Based on some tests it seems that the duovero unpaired regulator usage
>>>>>>>>>>> is fixed by reverting:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> c55d7a055364 ("mmc: host: omap_hsmmc: use regulator_is_enabled to
>>>>>>>>>>> find pbias status")
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> With commit c55d7a055364 my guess is that the PBIAS regulator is
>>>>>>>>>> already on from an earlier MMC probe and getting re-enabled when
>>>>>>>>>> a deferred probe happens?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unless somebody has a better fix in mind for the above, I suggest
>>>>>>>>> we revert it for the -rc kernel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me try reverting that in my build tree, and...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And it seems that omap3 legacy MMC is broken earlier in the
>>>>>>>>>>> series with:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 7d607f917008 ("mmc: host: omap_hsmmc: use
>>>>>>>>>>> devm_regulator_get_optional() for vmmc")
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This one does not cleanly revert so have not yet tried reverting
>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And with commit 7d607f917008 I'm guessing we can't return anHi,
>>>>>>>>>> error if the PBIAS regulator does not exist as that's not there
>>>>>>>>>> for the legacy booting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For omap3 legacy booting, we keep getting -EPROBE_DEFER for
>>>>>>>>> all the optional regulators.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Something like the following might be the minimal fix for the -rc
>>>>>>>>> cycle?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> applying this patch.  If that gets things going again, then we
>>>>>>>> _definitely_ should get both of these to Linus ASAP.  The breakage
>>>>>>>> has been around far too long already.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Last night's build shows that this fixes the non-DT LDP3430 booting, but
>>>>>>> DT-based LDP3430 and SDP4430 both remain broken for the same reason -
>>>>>>> neither can find their SD cards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm DT-based boot finds the MMC card for LDP, dmesg below from DT boot [1].
>>>>>> Looks like you're on on -rc4 and not -rc3. My guess is that MMC is not
>>>>>> working for you with DT-based booting because you don't seem to have
>>>>>> CONFIG_REGULATOR_PBIAS in your seed config for. Care to try enabling that
>>>>>> for both your omap3 and omap4 seed config files?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We're at -rc4.  That means we're could be only three weeks away from 4.3
>>>>>>> being released, and DT OMAP has yet to boot _once_ here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I find *totally* unacceptable is the lack of reaction from the MMC
>>>>>>> and TI people: it's just like "we'll break your crap, and we'll ignore
>>>>>>> reports of regressions."  That is *not* acceptable in any shape or form,
>>>>>>> and people who do this _should_ have their future patches ignored until
>>>>>>> they demonstrate that they understand the need to not break stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm at the point of suggesting that there should be a moritorium on all
>>>>>>> OMAP related development for 4.4: delay all development to 4.5, and have
>>>>>>> 4.4 as a pure bug-fixing _only_ cycle for OMAP.  If 4.3 is released and
>>>>>>> OMAP is still broken, then I don't think there's an option on that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe the idea that development work won't hit mainline for another 4
>>>>>>> months will help focus the minds on not breaking stuff and then ignoring
>>>>>>> regression reports.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking along the same lines. In general, I do not and will not
>>>>>> apply any patches that are not fixes until all critical regressions are
>>>>>> out of the way. So not applying anything new for v4.4 until these MMC
>>>>>> regressions are fixed for v4.3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony, Russell - just wanted to say thanks for putting a big effort in
>>>>> fixing this. I was expecting support from Kishon, but I guess he's
>>>>> busy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunate, I don't have any of the hardware that fails, otherwise I
>>>>> would of course be helping out more. The only thing I can think of is
>>>>> to revert the entire patchset I picked up for 4.3 from Kishon for the
>>>>> omap_hsmmc driver, but then I am not sure if that would cause other
>>>>> issues...
>>>>
>>>> Please don't do that as that will just mask lot of bugs in the
>>>> devicetree and might get MMC working. Indeed I was busy but I'll try to
>>>> get this resolved asap. The 2 pending issues as far as I know
>>>
>>> Sorry, but no.  None of this "mask bugs ... might" crap.  Either they're
>>> bug fixes, or they aren't bug fixes.  This should be a definite decision,
>>> not some vague crap.
>>
>> What I meant is the patches merged by Ulf *did* exposed bugs in device
>> tree (for instance a dt patch caused PBIAS regulator from not being
>> registered) and if those patches are reverted then a future dt breakage
>> might again be not caught.
> 
> That makes it even worse then.
> 
> What you seem to be saying now is that the old DT files were wrong, and
> you've fixed the DT files up in the latest kernel.  You've also changed
> the kernel in a way to make the old DT files fail.

I'll try to explain the changes that went in MMC driver, PBIAS regulator
driver and devicetree.

******
MMC controller in OMAP platforms uses PBIAS to know when the voltage to
the IO lines are stable. So PBIAS regulator device tree node was added
(as a child node of ocp), CONFIG_PBIAS_REGULATOR was added to
omap2plus_defconfig and code to get and enable pbias regulator was added
in MMC driver. But then error checking in MMC driver wasn't correct. It
was something like this

        reg = devm_regulator_get_optional(host->dev, "pbias");
        host->pbias = IS_ERR(reg) ? NULL : reg;

For *any* errors it just sets pbias to NULL and proceeds normally.

With this code the behavior is same if CONFIG_PBIAS_REGULATOR is either
set or unset. The behavior is same if pbias driver gets probed properly
or not.

******
Then certain modifications were done in devicetree in order to correctly
model users of syscon registers. With this pbias regulator device tree
node was made as child node of scm_conf node.

This resulted in pbias device not being created (fixed by [1]), probe of
pbias regulator driver fails while doing platform_get_resource (fixed by
[2]) and pbias regulator enable was failing (fixed by [3])

[1] -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/7/27/391
[2] -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/9/4/210
[3] -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/9/4/205

But even without any of these fixes MMC continued to work because error
checking in MMC driver was not proper.

******
Along with PBIAS fixes, patches were sent to clean-up and fix MMC [4].
With this series MMC fails on real failures like if "pbias-supply"
property is populated in MMC dt node, then MMC driver will fail if it
doesn't get the pbias regulator (which means now if
CONFIG_PBIAS_REGULATOR is not enabled, MMC driver will fail if it finds
pbias-supply property in devicetree node). Since omap2plus_defconfig
already had CONFIG_PBIAS_REGULATOR, it was added for multi_v7_defconfig [5].

However not adding this detail in *Documentation* resulted in MMC
failures and $subject.

[4] -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/8/27/122
[5] -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/9/3/119

> 
> That's totally unacceptable.  Users have the right to expect that old DT
> files work with later kernels.
> 
> It's fine to detect the broken DT files and print a warning, and have
> the kernel fix up the breakage, but it is unacceptable to decide that
> old DT files are broken and to then change stuff to prevent them working
> with later kernels.

No, we didn't break old DT files. We added new compatible string to
handle newer DT [6]

[6] -> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/9/3/51

Thanks
Kishon

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-08  0:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-24  9:00 All OMAP platforms: MMC is broken Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-09-24  9:00 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-09-24 22:51 ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-09-24 22:51   ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-09-24 22:53   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-09-24 22:53     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-09-24 23:37 ` Tony Lindgren
2015-09-24 23:37   ` Tony Lindgren
2015-09-25  1:13   ` Tony Lindgren
2015-09-25  1:13     ` Tony Lindgren
2015-09-26  2:54     ` Nishanth Menon
2015-09-26  2:54       ` Nishanth Menon
2015-10-01  9:33   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-01  9:33     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-01  9:50     ` Ulf Hansson
2015-10-01  9:50       ` Ulf Hansson
2015-10-01 10:03       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-01 10:03         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-05 11:23         ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-05 11:23           ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-05 14:35           ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-05 14:35             ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-05 14:51             ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-05 14:51               ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-05 17:11               ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-05 17:11                 ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-05 18:38                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-05 18:38                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-06  9:00                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-06  9:00                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-06  9:44                     ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-06  9:44                       ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-06 10:11                       ` Ulf Hansson
2015-10-06 10:11                         ` Ulf Hansson
2015-10-06 10:36                         ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2015-10-06 10:36                           ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2015-10-06 15:07                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-06 15:07                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-06 19:29                             ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2015-10-06 19:29                               ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2015-10-06 19:57                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-06 19:57                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-08  0:46                                 ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I [this message]
2015-10-08  0:46                                   ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2015-10-06 15:00                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-06 15:00                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-06 15:37                         ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-06 15:37                           ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-07 12:45                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-07 12:45                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-07 13:26                             ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-07 13:26                               ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-07 13:41                               ` Ulf Hansson
2015-10-07 13:41                                 ` Ulf Hansson
2015-10-07 15:52                                 ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-07 15:52                                   ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-07 19:40                                   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-10-07 19:40                                     ` Ulf Hansson
2015-10-07 23:13                                     ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2015-10-07 23:13                                       ` Kishon Vijay Abraham I
2015-10-08  8:40                                       ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-08  8:40                                         ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-08  9:35                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-08  9:35                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-08  9:56                                           ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-08  9:56                                             ` Tony Lindgren
2015-10-08 10:00                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-08 10:00                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-07 17:53                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-10-07 17:53                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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