From: Shawn Lin <shawn.lin-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>
To: Lars-Peter Clausen <lars-Qo5EllUWu/uELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH v5 06/10] dmaengine: add API for getting dma controller's quirk
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 19:31:21 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5617A589.4090102@rock-chips.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <561629D6.9010702-Qo5EllUWu/uELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
在 2015/10/8 16:31, Lars-Peter Clausen 写道:
> On 10/06/2015 11:21 AM, Shawn Lin wrote:
>> Hi Vinod,
>>
>> On 2015/10/5 23:37, Vinod Koul wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 07:48:59AM +0800, Shawn Lin wrote:
>>>> Add dmaengine_get_quirks API for peripheral devices to query
>>>> quirks if they need it to make special workaround due to broken
>>>> dma controller design.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Shawn Lin <shawn.lin-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Changes in v5: None
>>>> Changes in v4: None
>>>> Changes in v3: None
>>>> Changes in v2: None
>>>> Changes in v1: None
>>>>
>>>> include/linux/dmaengine.h | 9 +++++++++
>>>> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/dmaengine.h b/include/linux/dmaengine.h
>>>> index e2f5eb4..5174ca4 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/dmaengine.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/dmaengine.h
>>>> @@ -704,6 +704,7 @@ struct dma_device {
>>>>
>>>> int (*device_config)(struct dma_chan *chan,
>>>> struct dma_slave_config *config);
>>>> + int (*device_get_quirks)(struct dma_chan *chan);
>>>
>>> And why do we want to expose this to users? THis doesnt seem right!
>>>
>>
>> Basically I agree not to expose dma's quirk to slave controllers...But, the
>> fact I mentioned on cover letter explain the reasons why I have to let slave
>> controllers know that they are working with a broken dma. It's a dilemma
>> that if we don't want that to be exposed(let slave controllers' driver get
>> the info via a API), we have t add broken quirk for all of them ,here and
>> there, which seems to be a disaster:(
>
> The problem with this API is that it transports values with device specific
> meanings over a generic API. Which is generally speaking not a good idea
> because the consumer witch is supposed to be generic suddenly needs to know
> which provider it is talking to.
>
> A better solution in this case typically is either introduce a generic API
> with generic values or a custom API with custom values, but don't mix the two.
>
>>
>> I would appreciate it if you could give me some suggestions at your earliest
>> convenience. :)
>
> In this case I think the best way to handle this is not quirks, but rather
> expose the actual maximum burst size using the DMA capabilities API. Since
> supporting only a certain burst depth is not really a quirk. All hardware
> has a limit for this and for some it might be larger or smaller than for
> others and it might be the same IP core but the maximum size depends on some
> IP core parameters. So this should be discoverable.
>
Hi Lars,
Thanks for looking for that.
It's a good idea if all clients of the Soc are broken, but unfortunately
some of them work. So... max burst shoule be different for individuals.
> - Lars
>
>
>
>
--
Best Regards
Shawn Lin
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From: shawn.lin@rock-chips.com (Shawn Lin)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [alsa-devel] [PATCH v5 06/10] dmaengine: add API for getting dma controller's quirk
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 19:31:21 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5617A589.4090102@rock-chips.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <561629D6.9010702@metafoo.de>
? 2015/10/8 16:31, Lars-Peter Clausen ??:
> On 10/06/2015 11:21 AM, Shawn Lin wrote:
>> Hi Vinod,
>>
>> On 2015/10/5 23:37, Vinod Koul wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 07:48:59AM +0800, Shawn Lin wrote:
>>>> Add dmaengine_get_quirks API for peripheral devices to query
>>>> quirks if they need it to make special workaround due to broken
>>>> dma controller design.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Shawn Lin <shawn.lin@rock-chips.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Changes in v5: None
>>>> Changes in v4: None
>>>> Changes in v3: None
>>>> Changes in v2: None
>>>> Changes in v1: None
>>>>
>>>> include/linux/dmaengine.h | 9 +++++++++
>>>> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/dmaengine.h b/include/linux/dmaengine.h
>>>> index e2f5eb4..5174ca4 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/dmaengine.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/dmaengine.h
>>>> @@ -704,6 +704,7 @@ struct dma_device {
>>>>
>>>> int (*device_config)(struct dma_chan *chan,
>>>> struct dma_slave_config *config);
>>>> + int (*device_get_quirks)(struct dma_chan *chan);
>>>
>>> And why do we want to expose this to users? THis doesnt seem right!
>>>
>>
>> Basically I agree not to expose dma's quirk to slave controllers...But, the
>> fact I mentioned on cover letter explain the reasons why I have to let slave
>> controllers know that they are working with a broken dma. It's a dilemma
>> that if we don't want that to be exposed(let slave controllers' driver get
>> the info via a API), we have t add broken quirk for all of them ,here and
>> there, which seems to be a disaster:(
>
> The problem with this API is that it transports values with device specific
> meanings over a generic API. Which is generally speaking not a good idea
> because the consumer witch is supposed to be generic suddenly needs to know
> which provider it is talking to.
>
> A better solution in this case typically is either introduce a generic API
> with generic values or a custom API with custom values, but don't mix the two.
>
>>
>> I would appreciate it if you could give me some suggestions at your earliest
>> convenience. :)
>
> In this case I think the best way to handle this is not quirks, but rather
> expose the actual maximum burst size using the DMA capabilities API. Since
> supporting only a certain burst depth is not really a quirk. All hardware
> has a limit for this and for some it might be larger or smaller than for
> others and it might be the same IP core but the maximum size depends on some
> IP core parameters. So this should be discoverable.
>
Hi Lars,
Thanks for looking for that.
It's a good idea if all clients of the Soc are broken, but unfortunately
some of them work. So... max burst shoule be different for individuals.
> - Lars
>
>
>
>
--
Best Regards
Shawn Lin
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Shawn Lin <shawn.lin@rock-chips.com>
To: Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>, Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@intel.com>
Cc: shawn.lin@rock-chips.com, Addy Ke <addy.ke@rock-chips.com>,
Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-spi@vger.kernel.org,
Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@chromium.org>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH v5 06/10] dmaengine: add API for getting dma controller's quirk
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 19:31:21 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5617A589.4090102@rock-chips.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <561629D6.9010702@metafoo.de>
在 2015/10/8 16:31, Lars-Peter Clausen 写道:
> On 10/06/2015 11:21 AM, Shawn Lin wrote:
>> Hi Vinod,
>>
>> On 2015/10/5 23:37, Vinod Koul wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 07:48:59AM +0800, Shawn Lin wrote:
>>>> Add dmaengine_get_quirks API for peripheral devices to query
>>>> quirks if they need it to make special workaround due to broken
>>>> dma controller design.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Shawn Lin <shawn.lin@rock-chips.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Changes in v5: None
>>>> Changes in v4: None
>>>> Changes in v3: None
>>>> Changes in v2: None
>>>> Changes in v1: None
>>>>
>>>> include/linux/dmaengine.h | 9 +++++++++
>>>> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/dmaengine.h b/include/linux/dmaengine.h
>>>> index e2f5eb4..5174ca4 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/dmaengine.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/dmaengine.h
>>>> @@ -704,6 +704,7 @@ struct dma_device {
>>>>
>>>> int (*device_config)(struct dma_chan *chan,
>>>> struct dma_slave_config *config);
>>>> + int (*device_get_quirks)(struct dma_chan *chan);
>>>
>>> And why do we want to expose this to users? THis doesnt seem right!
>>>
>>
>> Basically I agree not to expose dma's quirk to slave controllers...But, the
>> fact I mentioned on cover letter explain the reasons why I have to let slave
>> controllers know that they are working with a broken dma. It's a dilemma
>> that if we don't want that to be exposed(let slave controllers' driver get
>> the info via a API), we have t add broken quirk for all of them ,here and
>> there, which seems to be a disaster:(
>
> The problem with this API is that it transports values with device specific
> meanings over a generic API. Which is generally speaking not a good idea
> because the consumer witch is supposed to be generic suddenly needs to know
> which provider it is talking to.
>
> A better solution in this case typically is either introduce a generic API
> with generic values or a custom API with custom values, but don't mix the two.
>
>>
>> I would appreciate it if you could give me some suggestions at your earliest
>> convenience. :)
>
> In this case I think the best way to handle this is not quirks, but rather
> expose the actual maximum burst size using the DMA capabilities API. Since
> supporting only a certain burst depth is not really a quirk. All hardware
> has a limit for this and for some it might be larger or smaller than for
> others and it might be the same IP core but the maximum size depends on some
> IP core parameters. So this should be discoverable.
>
Hi Lars,
Thanks for looking for that.
It's a good idea if all clients of the Soc are broken, but unfortunately
some of them work. So... max burst shoule be different for individuals.
> - Lars
>
>
>
>
--
Best Regards
Shawn Lin
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2015-09-13 23:45 [PATCH v5 0/10] Fix broken DMAFLUSHP on Rockchips platform Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:45 ` Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:45 ` Shawn Lin
[not found] ` <1442187923-5736-1-git-send-email-shawn.lin-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-13 23:46 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] DMA: pl330: support burst mode for dev-to-mem and mem-to-dev transmit Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:46 ` Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:46 ` Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:46 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] Documentation: arm-pl330: add description of arm,pl330-broken-no-flushp Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:46 ` Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:46 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] Documentation: arm-pl330: add description of arm, pl330-broken-no-flushp Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:49 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] snd: dmaengine-pcm: add snd_dmaengine_pcm_get_quirks interface Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:49 ` Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:49 ` Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:49 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] ASoC: rockchip_i2s: modify DMA max burst to 1 Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:49 ` Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:49 ` Shawn Lin
[not found] ` <1442188182-6181-1-git-send-email-shawn.lin-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-16 19:22 ` Mark Brown
2015-09-16 19:22 ` Mark Brown
2015-09-16 19:22 ` Mark Brown
2015-09-13 23:48 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] DMA: pl330: add quirk for broken no flushp Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:48 ` Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:48 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] ARM: dts: Add arm,pl330-broken-no-flushp quirk for rk3288 platform Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:48 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] ARM: dts: Add arm, pl330-broken-no-flushp " Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:48 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] ARM: dts: Add arm,pl330-broken-no-flushp quirk for rk3xxx platform Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:48 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] ARM: dts: Add arm, pl330-broken-no-flushp " Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:48 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] dmaengine: add API for getting dma controller's quirk Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:48 ` Shawn Lin
2015-10-05 15:37 ` Vinod Koul
2015-10-05 15:37 ` Vinod Koul
[not found] ` <20151005153746.GG13501-bQVUxfxUtC13uc1i7fC1zK2pdiUAq4bhAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-06 9:21 ` Shawn Lin
2015-10-06 9:21 ` Shawn Lin
2015-10-06 9:21 ` Shawn Lin
[not found] ` <56139289.7000005-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-07 14:32 ` Vinod Koul
2015-10-07 14:32 ` Vinod Koul
2015-10-07 14:32 ` Vinod Koul
[not found] ` <20151007143205.GG3320-bQVUxfxUtC13uc1i7fC1zK2pdiUAq4bhAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-09 11:23 ` Shawn Lin
2015-10-09 11:23 ` Shawn Lin
2015-10-09 11:23 ` Shawn Lin
2015-10-08 8:31 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-10-08 8:31 ` [alsa-devel] " Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-10-08 8:31 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
[not found] ` <561629D6.9010702-Qo5EllUWu/uELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-09 11:31 ` Shawn Lin [this message]
2015-10-09 11:31 ` Shawn Lin
2015-10-09 11:31 ` Shawn Lin
2015-10-09 11:38 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-10-09 11:38 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2015-10-14 10:53 ` Vinod Koul
2015-10-14 10:53 ` Vinod Koul
2015-10-14 10:53 ` Vinod Koul
2015-10-14 14:33 ` Shawn Lin
2015-10-14 14:33 ` Shawn Lin
2015-10-14 14:33 ` Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:49 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] DMA: pl330: implement dmaengine_get_quirks hook Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:49 ` Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:49 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] spi: rockchip: modify DMA max burst to 1 Shawn Lin
2015-09-13 23:49 ` Shawn Lin
2015-09-28 1:59 ` [PATCH v5 0/10] Fix broken DMAFLUSHP on Rockchips platform Shawn Lin
2015-09-28 1:59 ` Shawn Lin
2015-09-28 1:59 ` Shawn Lin
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