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From: Chanwoo Choi <cw00.choi-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Lee Jones <lee.jones-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Charles Keepax
	<ckeepax-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org,
	mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org,
	ijc+devicetree-KcIKpvwj1kUDXYZnReoRVg@public.gmane.org,
	galak-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org,
	myungjoo.ham-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	patches-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mfd: arizona: Update DT binding documentation for mic detection
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 23:09:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <561D10A6.7040504@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <561D0E4C.4010205-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>

On 2015년 10월 13일 22:59, Chanwoo Choi wrote:
> Hi Lee,
> 
> On 2015년 10월 13일 22:50, Lee Jones wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, Charles Keepax wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 09:02:18AM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, Mark Brown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 09:45:54AM +0100, Charles Keepax wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 01:26:42PM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 07 Oct 2015, Mark Brown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This all seems pretty much fine to me - the things it is controlling are
>>>>>>>> fairly specific to the way the former Wolfson devices do, they only
>>>>>>>> really make sense with a fairly particular algorithm which isn't widely
>>>>>>>> implemented.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is that an Ack?
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am guessing Mark is slightly hesitant to ack as he probably
>>>>>> doesn't want to add reviewing all our jack detection bindings to
>>>>>> his already fairly sizable work load and doing so here likely
>>>>>> means it will be expected in the future. From talking to people at
>>>>
>>>> Providing Acks should not (and has not to my knowledge) be a binding
>>>> contract to continue providing Acks.  However, should more bindings be
>>>> submitted which appear as though they are related to a particular
>>>> maintainer, then sure, you'll be asked for your expert eye again.
>>>
>>> Its not a binding contract to continue providing them but we are
>>> making that a condition of merging any patches, which means I
>>> will need to chase Mark for Acks, as it seems the DT maintainers
>>> won't have any interest in reviewing/acking these.
>>
>> I've already made it a condition, as I refuse to blindly accept
>> unknown bindings.  Taking a sea of bindings I have no knowledge of
>> would be a bad-thing(tm).  If these were GPIO bindings, I'd be asking
>> Linus for help, likewise if they were I2C, I'd be asking Wolfram.
>>
>>>>> Pretty much (plus generally being busy at ELC-E last week) - if there's
>>>>> specific questions that's one thing but if it's just general requests to
>>>>> look at bindings then it seems like the relevant subsystem maintainers
>>>>
>>>> This is exactly my point.  I am not the 'relevant subsystem
>>>> maintainer' for these properties and subsequently know nothing of
>>>> microphone detection, headsets, bias', etc.  These look like Audio
>>>> related properties to me (the uninitiated), which is why you were
>>>> asked.
>>>
>>> It would be sensible I guess to define whether I should be
>>> including audio people on jack detection patches even if they
>>> don't touch audio subsystems. I was treating jack detection
>>> as an extcon thing and thus assuming that the extcon maintainer
>>> would be sufficient, but perhaps that is an incorrect assumption.
>>
>> Now I know that jack detection is an Extcon thing and Extcon Ack will
>> do just nicely.  However, that begs the question; if they are an
>> Extcon thing, why aren't they in the Extcon binding document?
> 
> As I knew, the arizona-extcon is one device of the MFD devices 
> for WMxxxx series in the driver/mfd/arizona-core.c. So, If arizona-extcon
> driver needs the some property for dt support, some property should be
> included in MFD device tree node. There is no separate device tree node for
> arizona-extcon driver.

If creating the separate extcon doc for extcon-arizona.c driver, it is possible
to make the child device tree node which is located at the below of arizona MFD
device tree node.

I agree about Lee's opinion to make the separate the Extcon doc for extcon-arizona.c.

[snip]

Thanks,
Chanwoo Choi
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From: Chanwoo Choi <cw00.choi@samsung.com>
To: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Charles Keepax <ckeepax@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, pawel.moll@arm.com, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk, galak@codeaurora.org,
	myungjoo.ham@samsung.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	patches@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mfd: arizona: Update DT binding documentation for mic detection
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 23:09:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <561D10A6.7040504@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <561D0E4C.4010205@samsung.com>

On 2015년 10월 13일 22:59, Chanwoo Choi wrote:
> Hi Lee,
> 
> On 2015년 10월 13일 22:50, Lee Jones wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015, Charles Keepax wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 09:02:18AM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, Mark Brown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 09:45:54AM +0100, Charles Keepax wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 07, 2015 at 01:26:42PM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 07 Oct 2015, Mark Brown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This all seems pretty much fine to me - the things it is controlling are
>>>>>>>> fairly specific to the way the former Wolfson devices do, they only
>>>>>>>> really make sense with a fairly particular algorithm which isn't widely
>>>>>>>> implemented.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is that an Ack?
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am guessing Mark is slightly hesitant to ack as he probably
>>>>>> doesn't want to add reviewing all our jack detection bindings to
>>>>>> his already fairly sizable work load and doing so here likely
>>>>>> means it will be expected in the future. From talking to people at
>>>>
>>>> Providing Acks should not (and has not to my knowledge) be a binding
>>>> contract to continue providing Acks.  However, should more bindings be
>>>> submitted which appear as though they are related to a particular
>>>> maintainer, then sure, you'll be asked for your expert eye again.
>>>
>>> Its not a binding contract to continue providing them but we are
>>> making that a condition of merging any patches, which means I
>>> will need to chase Mark for Acks, as it seems the DT maintainers
>>> won't have any interest in reviewing/acking these.
>>
>> I've already made it a condition, as I refuse to blindly accept
>> unknown bindings.  Taking a sea of bindings I have no knowledge of
>> would be a bad-thing(tm).  If these were GPIO bindings, I'd be asking
>> Linus for help, likewise if they were I2C, I'd be asking Wolfram.
>>
>>>>> Pretty much (plus generally being busy at ELC-E last week) - if there's
>>>>> specific questions that's one thing but if it's just general requests to
>>>>> look at bindings then it seems like the relevant subsystem maintainers
>>>>
>>>> This is exactly my point.  I am not the 'relevant subsystem
>>>> maintainer' for these properties and subsequently know nothing of
>>>> microphone detection, headsets, bias', etc.  These look like Audio
>>>> related properties to me (the uninitiated), which is why you were
>>>> asked.
>>>
>>> It would be sensible I guess to define whether I should be
>>> including audio people on jack detection patches even if they
>>> don't touch audio subsystems. I was treating jack detection
>>> as an extcon thing and thus assuming that the extcon maintainer
>>> would be sufficient, but perhaps that is an incorrect assumption.
>>
>> Now I know that jack detection is an Extcon thing and Extcon Ack will
>> do just nicely.  However, that begs the question; if they are an
>> Extcon thing, why aren't they in the Extcon binding document?
> 
> As I knew, the arizona-extcon is one device of the MFD devices 
> for WMxxxx series in the driver/mfd/arizona-core.c. So, If arizona-extcon
> driver needs the some property for dt support, some property should be
> included in MFD device tree node. There is no separate device tree node for
> arizona-extcon driver.

If creating the separate extcon doc for extcon-arizona.c driver, it is possible
to make the child device tree node which is located at the below of arizona MFD
device tree node.

I agree about Lee's opinion to make the separate the Extcon doc for extcon-arizona.c.

[snip]

Thanks,
Chanwoo Choi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-13 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-02 16:29 [PATCH v2 0/5] Arizona Extcon Update Device Bindings Charles Keepax
2015-10-02 16:29 ` Charles Keepax
     [not found] ` <1443803363-3251-1-git-send-email-ckeepax-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-02 16:29   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] extcon: arizona: Add device binding to enable ADC mode micdet Charles Keepax
2015-10-02 16:29     ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-02 16:29 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] extcon: arizona: Add device binding for the general purpose switch Charles Keepax
2015-10-02 16:29   ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-02 16:29 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] extcon: arizona: Add device binding for jack detect polarity inversion Charles Keepax
2015-10-02 16:29   ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-02 16:29 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mfd: arizona: Update DT binding documentation for mic detection Charles Keepax
2015-10-02 16:29   ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-05 10:02   ` Lee Jones
2015-10-07 10:00   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]     ` <20151007100017.GB12635-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-07 12:26       ` Lee Jones
2015-10-07 12:26         ` Lee Jones
2015-10-12  8:45         ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-12  8:45           ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-12 10:16           ` Chanwoo Choi
2015-10-12 10:25             ` Chanwoo Choi
2015-10-13  8:03               ` Lee Jones
2015-10-13 10:11                 ` Chanwoo Choi
2015-10-13 10:11                   ` Chanwoo Choi
2015-10-12 13:43           ` Mark Brown
2015-10-12 13:43             ` Mark Brown
     [not found]             ` <20151012134309.GE1542-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-13  8:02               ` Lee Jones
2015-10-13  8:02                 ` Lee Jones
2015-10-13 12:14                 ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-13 12:14                   ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-13 13:50                   ` Lee Jones
2015-10-13 13:50                     ` Lee Jones
2015-10-13 13:59                     ` Chanwoo Choi
     [not found]                       ` <561D0E4C.4010205-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-13 14:09                         ` Chanwoo Choi [this message]
2015-10-13 14:09                           ` Chanwoo Choi
2015-10-13 14:18                           ` Lee Jones
2015-10-13 15:23                             ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-13 15:23                               ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-13 15:12                 ` Mark Brown
2015-10-14  7:28                   ` Lee Jones
2015-10-14  9:49                     ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                       ` <20151014094903.GP14956-GFdadSzt00ze9xe1eoZjHA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-14 12:30                         ` Lee Jones
2015-10-14 12:30                           ` Lee Jones
2015-10-14 13:09                           ` Mark Brown
2015-10-14 13:09                             ` Mark Brown
2015-10-14 13:20                             ` Lee Jones
2015-10-13  8:08   ` Lee Jones
2015-10-13 12:15     ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-13 12:15       ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-13 13:43       ` Lee Jones
2015-10-13 13:43         ` Lee Jones
2015-10-02 16:29 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] mfd: arizona: Update DT binding document for jack detection invert Charles Keepax
2015-10-02 16:29   ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-05 10:01   ` Lee Jones
2015-10-12  8:15     ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-12  8:15       ` Charles Keepax
2015-10-13  8:07       ` Lee Jones

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