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From: f.fainelli@gmail.com (Florian Fainelli)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 00/13] mvneta Buffer Management and enhancements
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 12:15:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5661F449.5020205@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPv3WKcKm3X3Lys2HwYZXaZxPaajenF7av1wJKXqKxxwibXW4A@mail.gmail.com>

(no top posting please)

On 02/12/15 00:26, Marcin Wojtas wrote:
> Hi Florian,
> 
> Can you please describe in more details, what would you expect from
> such special abstraction layer regarding buffer managers? I'd like to
> understand more of your expectations and evaluate possible work.

Well, something along these lines:

- have the ability to register a particular pool (location + number of
buffers) in a way that is relatively device agnostic (initialization
would of course be device specific)

- provide a set of buffer management APIs like those you proposed below,
and have some generic code that leverages what
drivers/net/ethernet/sun/niu.c does for instance

- introduce a netdev_alloc_skb_from_pool() or something like that which
would limit the amount of code to change in your network driver to
benefit from that feature so based

I am sure David would be able to suggest more detailed API.

> 
> Best regards,
> Marcin
> 
> 2015-11-30 17:25 GMT+01:00 David Miller <davem@redhat.com>:
>> From: Marcin Wojtas <mw@semihalf.com>
>> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:13:22 +0100
>>
>>> What kind of abstraction and helpers do you mean? Some kind of API
>>> (e.g. bm_alloc_buffer, bm_initialize_ring bm_put_buffer,
>>> bm_get_buffer), which would be used by platform drivers (and specific
>>> aplications if one wants to develop on top of the kernel)?
>>>
>>> In general, what is your top-view of such solution and its cooperation
>>> with the drivers?
>>
>> The tricky parts involved have to do with allocating pages for the
>> buffer pools and minimizing the number of atomic refcounting
>> operations on those pages for for the puts and gets, particularly
>> around buffer replenish runs.
>>
>> For example, if you're allocating a page for a buffer pool the device
>> will chop into N (for any N < PAGE_SIZE) byte pieces, you can
>> eliminate many atomic operations.


-- 
Florian

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
To: Marcin Wojtas <mw@semihalf.com>
Cc: "David Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Russell King - ARM Linux" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"Jason Cooper" <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	"Yair Mahalalel" <myair@marvell.com>,
	"Grzegorz Jaszczyk" <jaz@semihalf.com>,
	"Simon Guinot" <simon.guinot@sequanux.org>,
	"Evan Wang" <xswang@marvell.com>,
	nadavh@marvell.com, "Lior Amsalem" <alior@marvell.com>,
	"Tomasz Nowicki" <tn@semihalf.com>,
	"Gregory Clément" <gregory.clement@free-electrons.com>,
	nitroshift@yahoo.com,
	"Sebastian Hesselbarth" <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] mvneta Buffer Management and enhancements
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 12:15:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5661F449.5020205@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPv3WKcKm3X3Lys2HwYZXaZxPaajenF7av1wJKXqKxxwibXW4A@mail.gmail.com>

(no top posting please)

On 02/12/15 00:26, Marcin Wojtas wrote:
> Hi Florian,
> 
> Can you please describe in more details, what would you expect from
> such special abstraction layer regarding buffer managers? I'd like to
> understand more of your expectations and evaluate possible work.

Well, something along these lines:

- have the ability to register a particular pool (location + number of
buffers) in a way that is relatively device agnostic (initialization
would of course be device specific)

- provide a set of buffer management APIs like those you proposed below,
and have some generic code that leverages what
drivers/net/ethernet/sun/niu.c does for instance

- introduce a netdev_alloc_skb_from_pool() or something like that which
would limit the amount of code to change in your network driver to
benefit from that feature so based

I am sure David would be able to suggest more detailed API.

> 
> Best regards,
> Marcin
> 
> 2015-11-30 17:25 GMT+01:00 David Miller <davem@redhat.com>:
>> From: Marcin Wojtas <mw@semihalf.com>
>> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:13:22 +0100
>>
>>> What kind of abstraction and helpers do you mean? Some kind of API
>>> (e.g. bm_alloc_buffer, bm_initialize_ring bm_put_buffer,
>>> bm_get_buffer), which would be used by platform drivers (and specific
>>> aplications if one wants to develop on top of the kernel)?
>>>
>>> In general, what is your top-view of such solution and its cooperation
>>> with the drivers?
>>
>> The tricky parts involved have to do with allocating pages for the
>> buffer pools and minimizing the number of atomic refcounting
>> operations on those pages for for the puts and gets, particularly
>> around buffer replenish runs.
>>
>> For example, if you're allocating a page for a buffer pool the device
>> will chop into N (for any N < PAGE_SIZE) byte pieces, you can
>> eliminate many atomic operations.


-- 
Florian

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-04 20:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-22  7:53 [PATCH 00/13] mvneta Buffer Management and enhancements Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53 ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53 ` [PATCH 01/13] net: mvneta: add configuration for MBUS windows access protection Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-25 18:19   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-11-25 18:19     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-11-22  7:53 ` [PATCH 02/13] net: mvneta: enable IP checksum with jumbo frames for Armada 38x on Port0 Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22 20:00   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 20:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 21:04     ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22 21:04       ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22 21:04       ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22 21:32       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 21:32         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 21:55         ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22 21:55           ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53 ` [PATCH 03/13] net: mvneta: fix bit assignment in MVNETA_RXQ_CONFIG_REG Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-25 18:25   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-11-25 18:25     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-11-22  7:53 ` [PATCH 04/13] net: mvneta: enable suspend/resume support Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-25 18:35   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-11-25 18:35     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-11-25 18:35     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-11-26 17:39     ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-26 17:39       ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53 ` [PATCH 05/13] net: mvneta: add xmit_more support Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53 ` [PATCH 06/13] net: mvneta: enable mixed egress processing using HR timer Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-26 16:45   ` Simon Guinot
2015-11-26 16:45     ` Simon Guinot
2015-11-30 15:57     ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-30 15:57       ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-12-02 10:03       ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-12-02 10:03         ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53 ` [PATCH 07/13] bus: mvebu-mbus: provide api for obtaining IO and DRAM window information Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22 20:02   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 20:02     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 21:24     ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22 21:24       ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-23 16:58       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-23 16:58         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22  7:53 ` [PATCH 08/13] ARM: mvebu: enable SRAM support in mvebu_v7_defconfig Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2016-02-16 10:51   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2016-02-16 10:51     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-11-22  7:53 ` [PATCH 09/13] net: mvneta: bm: add support for hardware buffer management Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53 ` [PATCH 10/13] ARM: mvebu: add buffer manager nodes to armada-38x.dtsi Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  9:41   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2015-11-22  9:41     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2015-11-22  9:41     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2015-11-22  7:53 ` [PATCH 11/13] ARM: mvebu: enable buffer manager support on Armada 38x boards Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53 ` [PATCH 12/13] ARM: mvebu: add buffer manager nodes to armada-xp.dtsi Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53 ` [PATCH 13/13] ARM: mvebu: enable buffer manager support on Armada XP boards Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22  7:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22 20:06 ` [PATCH 00/13] mvneta Buffer Management and enhancements Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 20:06   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 21:37   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-22 21:37     ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-24 16:22 ` David Miller
2015-11-24 16:22   ` David Miller
2015-11-24 16:47   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-24 16:47     ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-25 18:34 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-11-25 18:34   ` Florian Fainelli
2015-11-25 18:34   ` Florian Fainelli
2015-11-29 13:21   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-29 13:21     ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-30  2:02     ` David Miller
2015-11-30  2:02       ` David Miller
2015-11-30 14:13       ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-30 14:13         ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-30 16:25         ` David Miller
2015-11-30 16:25           ` David Miller
2015-12-02  8:26           ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-12-02  8:26             ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-12-04 20:15             ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2015-12-04 20:15               ` Florian Fainelli
2015-12-08 10:56               ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-12-08 10:56                 ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-12-08 16:57                 ` David Miller
2015-12-08 16:57                   ` David Miller
2015-11-30 17:16 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-11-30 17:16   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-11-30 19:53   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-11-30 19:53     ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-12-01 13:12     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-12-01 13:12       ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-12-01 21:40       ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-12-01 21:40         ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-12-01 23:34         ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-12-01 23:34           ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-12-01 23:34           ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-12-02 10:40           ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-12-02 10:40             ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-12-02 16:21             ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-12-02 16:21               ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-12-02 22:15               ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-12-02 22:15                 ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-12-02 22:56                 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-12-02 22:56                   ` Gregory CLEMENT

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