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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	Hillf Danton <hillf.zj@alibaba-inc.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm, oom: protect !costly allocations some more
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:03:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56DEE9C9.7060503@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160308144827.GK13542@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 03/08/2016 03:48 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 08-03-16 15:34:37, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>> --- a/include/linux/compaction.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/compaction.h
>>> @@ -14,6 +14,11 @@ enum compact_result {
>>>  	/* compaction should continue to another pageblock */
>>>  	COMPACT_CONTINUE,
>>>  	/*
>>> +	 * whoever is calling compaction should retry because it was either
>>> +	 * not active or it tells us there is more work to be done.
>>> +	 */
>>> +	COMPACT_SHOULD_RETRY = COMPACT_CONTINUE,
>>
>> Hmm, I'm not sure about this. AFAIK compact_zone() doesn't ever return
>> COMPACT_CONTINUE, and thus try_to_compact_pages() also doesn't. This
>> overloading of CONTINUE only applies to compaction_suitable(). But the
>> value that should_compact_retry() is testing comes only from
>> try_to_compact_pages(). So this is not wrong, but perhaps a bit misleading?
> 
> Well the idea was that I wanted to cover all the _possible_ cases where
> compaction might want to tell us "please try again even when the last
> round wasn't really successful". COMPACT_CONTINUE might not be returned
> right now but we can come up with that in the future. It sounds like a
> sensible feedback to me. But maybe there would be a better name for such
> a feedback. I confess this is a bit oom-rework centric name...

Hmm, I see. But it doesn't really tell use to please try again. That
interpretation is indeed oom-specific. What it's actually telling us is
either a) reclaim and then try again (COMPACT_SKIPPED), b) try again
just to overcome the deferred state (COMPACT_DEFERRED). COMPACT_CONTINUE
says "go ahead", but only from compaction_suitable().
So the attempt a generic name doesn't really work here I'm afraid :/

> Also I find it better to hide details behind a more generic name.
> 
> I am open to suggestions here, of course.
> 

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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	Hillf Danton <hillf.zj@alibaba-inc.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm, oom: protect !costly allocations some more
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:03:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56DEE9C9.7060503@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160308144827.GK13542@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 03/08/2016 03:48 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 08-03-16 15:34:37, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>> --- a/include/linux/compaction.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/compaction.h
>>> @@ -14,6 +14,11 @@ enum compact_result {
>>>  	/* compaction should continue to another pageblock */
>>>  	COMPACT_CONTINUE,
>>>  	/*
>>> +	 * whoever is calling compaction should retry because it was either
>>> +	 * not active or it tells us there is more work to be done.
>>> +	 */
>>> +	COMPACT_SHOULD_RETRY = COMPACT_CONTINUE,
>>
>> Hmm, I'm not sure about this. AFAIK compact_zone() doesn't ever return
>> COMPACT_CONTINUE, and thus try_to_compact_pages() also doesn't. This
>> overloading of CONTINUE only applies to compaction_suitable(). But the
>> value that should_compact_retry() is testing comes only from
>> try_to_compact_pages(). So this is not wrong, but perhaps a bit misleading?
> 
> Well the idea was that I wanted to cover all the _possible_ cases where
> compaction might want to tell us "please try again even when the last
> round wasn't really successful". COMPACT_CONTINUE might not be returned
> right now but we can come up with that in the future. It sounds like a
> sensible feedback to me. But maybe there would be a better name for such
> a feedback. I confess this is a bit oom-rework centric name...

Hmm, I see. But it doesn't really tell use to please try again. That
interpretation is indeed oom-specific. What it's actually telling us is
either a) reclaim and then try again (COMPACT_SKIPPED), b) try again
just to overcome the deferred state (COMPACT_DEFERRED). COMPACT_CONTINUE
says "go ahead", but only from compaction_suitable().
So the attempt a generic name doesn't really work here I'm afraid :/

> Also I find it better to hide details behind a more generic name.
> 
> I am open to suggestions here, of course.
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-08 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 299+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-15 18:19 [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4 Michal Hocko
2015-12-15 18:19 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-15 18:19 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm, oom: rework oom detection Michal Hocko
2015-12-15 18:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-14 22:58   ` David Rientjes
2016-01-14 22:58     ` David Rientjes
2016-01-16  1:07     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-16  1:07       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-19 22:48       ` David Rientjes
2016-01-19 22:48         ` David Rientjes
2016-01-20 11:13         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-20 11:13           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-20 13:13           ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 13:13             ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-04  8:23   ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-04-04  8:23     ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-04-04  9:42     ` Michal Hocko
2016-04-04  9:42       ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-15 18:19 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: throttle on IO only when there are too many dirty and writeback pages Michal Hocko
2015-12-15 18:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-17 11:35   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-17 11:35     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-17 12:01     ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-17 12:01       ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-15 18:19 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: use watermak checks for __GFP_REPEAT high order allocations Michal Hocko
2015-12-15 18:19   ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-16 23:35 ` [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4 Andrew Morton
2015-12-16 23:35   ` Andrew Morton
2015-12-18 12:12   ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-18 12:12     ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-16 23:58 ` Andrew Morton
2015-12-16 23:58   ` Andrew Morton
2015-12-18 13:15   ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-18 13:15     ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-18 16:35     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-12-18 16:35       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-12-24 12:41 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-12-24 12:41   ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-12-28 12:08   ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-12-28 12:08     ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-12-28 14:13     ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-12-28 14:13       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-06 12:44       ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-01-06 12:44         ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-01-08 12:37       ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-08 12:37         ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-29 16:32     ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-29 16:32       ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-30 15:05       ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-12-30 15:05         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-02 15:47         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-02 15:47           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-20 12:24           ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-20 12:24             ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-27 23:18             ` David Rientjes
2016-01-27 23:18               ` David Rientjes
2016-01-28 21:19               ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 21:19                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-29 16:27   ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-29 16:27     ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 20:40 ` [PATCH 4/3] mm, oom: drop the last allocation attempt before out_of_memory Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 20:40   ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 21:36   ` Johannes Weiner
2016-01-28 21:36     ` Johannes Weiner
2016-01-28 23:19     ` David Rientjes
2016-01-28 23:19       ` David Rientjes
2016-01-28 23:51       ` Johannes Weiner
2016-01-28 23:51         ` Johannes Weiner
2016-01-29 10:39         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-29 10:39           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-29 15:32         ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-29 15:32           ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-30 12:18           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-30 12:18             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-29 15:23       ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-29 15:23         ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-29 15:24     ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-29 15:24       ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 21:19 ` [PATCH 5/3] mm, vmscan: make zone_reclaimable_pages more precise Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 21:19   ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 23:20   ` David Rientjes
2016-01-28 23:20     ` David Rientjes
2016-01-29  3:41   ` Hillf Danton
2016-01-29  3:41     ` Hillf Danton
2016-01-29 10:35   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-29 10:35     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-29 15:17     ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-29 15:17       ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-29 21:30       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-29 21:30         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-03 13:27 ` [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4 Michal Hocko
2016-02-03 13:27   ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-03 22:58   ` David Rientjes
2016-02-03 22:58     ` David Rientjes
2016-02-04 12:57     ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-04 12:57       ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-04 13:10       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-04 13:10         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-04 13:39         ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-04 13:39           ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-04 14:24           ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-04 14:24             ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-07  4:09           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-07  4:09             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-15 20:06             ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-15 20:06               ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-16 13:10               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-16 13:10                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-16 15:19                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-16 15:19                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-25  3:47   ` Hugh Dickins
2016-02-25  3:47     ` Hugh Dickins
2016-02-25  6:48     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-25  6:48       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-25  9:17       ` Hillf Danton
2016-02-25  9:17         ` Hillf Danton
2016-02-25  9:27         ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-25  9:27           ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-25  9:48           ` Hillf Danton
2016-02-25  9:48             ` Hillf Danton
2016-02-25 11:02             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-25 11:02               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-25  9:23     ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-25  9:23       ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-26  6:32       ` Hugh Dickins
2016-02-26  6:32         ` Hugh Dickins
2016-02-26  7:54         ` Hillf Danton
2016-02-26  7:54           ` Hillf Danton
2016-02-26  9:24           ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-26  9:24             ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-26 10:27             ` Hillf Danton
2016-02-26 10:27               ` Hillf Danton
2016-02-26 13:49               ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-26 13:49                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-26  9:33         ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-26  9:33           ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-29 21:02       ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-29 21:02         ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02  2:19         ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02  2:19           ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02  9:50           ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02  9:50             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02 13:32             ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02 13:32               ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02 14:06               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02 14:06                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02 14:34                 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02 14:34                   ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-03  9:26                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-03  9:26                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-03 10:29                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-03 10:29                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-03 14:10                     ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-03 14:10                       ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-03 15:25                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-03 15:25                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-04  5:23                         ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-04  5:23                           ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-04 15:15                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-04 15:15                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-04 17:39                             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-04 17:39                               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-07  5:23                             ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-07  5:23                               ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-03 15:50                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-03 15:50                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-03 16:26                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-03 16:26                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-04  7:10                         ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-04  7:10                           ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02 15:01             ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-02 15:01               ` Minchan Kim
2016-03-07 16:08         ` [PATCH] mm, oom: protect !costly allocations some more (was: Re: [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4) Michal Hocko
2016-03-07 16:08           ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08  3:51           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-08  3:51             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-08  9:08             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08  9:08               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08  9:24               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-08  9:24                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-08  9:24           ` [PATCH] mm, oom: protect !costly allocations some more Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08  9:24             ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08  9:32             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-08  9:32               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-08  9:46             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08  9:46               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08  9:52               ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08  9:52                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08 10:10                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 10:10                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 11:12                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08 11:12                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08 12:22                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 12:22                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 12:29                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08 12:29                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08  9:58           ` [PATCH] mm, oom: protect !costly allocations some more (was: Re: [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4) Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-08  9:58             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-03-08 13:57             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 13:57               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 10:36           ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-08 13:42           ` [PATCH 0/2] oom rework: high order enahncements Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 13:42             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 13:42             ` [PATCH 1/3] mm, compaction: change COMPACT_ constants into enum Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 13:42               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 14:19               ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08 14:19                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-09  3:55               ` Hillf Danton
2016-03-09  3:55                 ` Hillf Danton
2016-03-08 13:42             ` [PATCH 2/3] mm, compaction: cover all compaction mode in compact_zone Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 13:42               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 14:22               ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08 14:22                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-09  3:57               ` Hillf Danton
2016-03-09  3:57                 ` Hillf Danton
2016-03-08 13:42             ` [PATCH 3/3] mm, oom: protect !costly allocations some more Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 13:42               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 14:34               ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08 14:34                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-08 14:48                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 14:48                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 15:03                   ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2016-03-08 15:03                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-09 11:11               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-09 11:11                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-09 14:07                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-09 14:07                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-11 12:17                 ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-11 12:17                   ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-11 13:06                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 13:06                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 19:08                     ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-11 19:08                       ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-14 16:21                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-14 16:21                         ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 15:19           ` [PATCH] mm, oom: protect !costly allocations some more (was: Re: [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4) Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-08 15:19             ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-08 16:05             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 16:05               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-08 17:03               ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-08 17:03                 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-09 10:41                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-09 10:41                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 14:53                   ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-11 14:53                     ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-11 15:20                     ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 15:20                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-29 20:35     ` [PATCH 0/3] OOM detection rework v4 Michal Hocko
2016-03-01  7:29       ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-01  7:29         ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-01 13:38         ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-01 13:38           ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-01 14:40           ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-01 14:40             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-01 18:14           ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-01 18:14             ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-02  2:55             ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02  2:55               ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02 12:37               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02 12:37                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02 14:06                 ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02 14:06                   ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02 12:24             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02 13:00               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02 13:22               ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-02 13:22                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-02  2:28           ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02  2:28             ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-02 12:39             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-02 12:39               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-03  9:54           ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-03 12:32             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-03 12:32               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-03 20:57               ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-03 20:57                 ` Hugh Dickins
2016-03-04  7:41                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-04  7:41                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-03-04  7:53             ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-04  7:53               ` Joonsoo Kim
2016-03-04 12:28             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-04 12:28               ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 10:45 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-11 10:45   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-11 13:08   ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 13:08     ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 13:32     ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-11 13:32       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-11 15:28       ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 15:28         ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 16:49         ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-11 16:49           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-11 17:00           ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 17:00             ` Michal Hocko
2016-03-11 17:20             ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-11 17:20               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-12  4:08               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-12  4:08                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-13 14:41                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-03-13 14:41                   ` Tetsuo Handa

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