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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	rutu.shah.26@gmail.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: kraxel@redhat.com, samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org,
	stefanha@redhat.com, kwolf@redhat.com,
	crosthwaite.peter@gmail.com, rth@twiddle.net, mst@redhat.com,
	imammedo@redhat.com, peter.maydell@linaro.org, balrogg@gmail.com,
	jsnow@redhat.com, alistair.francis@xilinx.com, agraf@suse.de,
	jasowang@redhat.com, blauwirbel@gmail.co,
	mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk, cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com,
	lcapitulino@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Replacing (and removing) get_ticks_per_sec() function with NANOSECONDS_PER_SECOND Signed-off-by: Rutuja Shah <rutu.shah.26@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:07:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56E2B4EA.4050305@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56E2AFA1.5010201@de.ibm.com>



On 11/03/2016 12:44, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>> -    s->tick_offset_vmstate = s->tick_offset + delta / get_ticks_per_sec();
>> > +    s->tick_offset_vmstate = s->tick_offset + delta / NANOSECONDS_PER_SECOND;
> [...]
> 
> While technically correct, I do not like these changes. The interfaces expect "ticks",
> and the fact that this happens to be a nanosecond does not help regarding 
> readability.

Actually, I think usage of "tick" in this file is just for historical
reasons.

A long time ago QEMU had a timer that ticked every millisecond and the
timers were not in nanosecond precision; rather they used
cpu_get_ticks() which was tied to the TSC.  This was changed in 2006,
and since then the number of ticks per second was changed to a constant
10^9.

Usage of "tick" to represent nanoseconds is definitely the exception.
It's much more common to have code like:

            now = qemu_clock_get_ns(QEMU_CLOCK_VIRTUAL);
            ...
                ticks = muldiv64(now, 32768, get_ticks_per_sec());

(hw/arm/omap1.c) that converts nanoseconds to 32768 Hz "ticks", and
using get_ticks_per_sec() is very confusing in the latter example.  You
would think that get_ticks_per_sec() is in the numerator (second
argument of muldiv64), not in the denominator!

Most of the time, get_ticks_per_sec()'s result end up being massaged in
some formula and passed to timer_mod which expects nanoseconds, such as

    timer_mod(fdctrl->result_timer,
              qemu_clock_get_ns(QEMU_CLOCK_VIRTUAL) +
              (get_ticks_per_sec() / 50));

where you have nanoseconds on the left of the plus sign and "ticks" on
the right.  NANOSECONDS_PER_SECOND makes it obvious that the timer will
expire in 1/50th of a second.

> If - for some reason - we want to replace a function with a MACRO, then
> please introduce TICKS_PER_SECOND which just feels better when reading the code.

This would be wrong, for the reason mentioned above.

Paolo

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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	rutu.shah.26@gmail.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: peter.maydell@linaro.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com,
	jasowang@redhat.com, mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk,
	lcapitulino@redhat.com, kraxel@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	agraf@suse.de, samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org,
	alistair.francis@xilinx.com, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
	stefanha@redhat.com, cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com, jsnow@redhat.com,
	rth@twiddle.net, kwolf@redhat.com, crosthwaite.peter@gmail.com,
	armbru@redhat.com, blauwirbel@gmail.co, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
	imammedo@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Replacing (and removing) get_ticks_per_sec() function with NANOSECONDS_PER_SECOND Signed-off-by: Rutuja Shah <rutu.shah.26@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:07:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56E2B4EA.4050305@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56E2AFA1.5010201@de.ibm.com>



On 11/03/2016 12:44, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>> -    s->tick_offset_vmstate = s->tick_offset + delta / get_ticks_per_sec();
>> > +    s->tick_offset_vmstate = s->tick_offset + delta / NANOSECONDS_PER_SECOND;
> [...]
> 
> While technically correct, I do not like these changes. The interfaces expect "ticks",
> and the fact that this happens to be a nanosecond does not help regarding 
> readability.

Actually, I think usage of "tick" in this file is just for historical
reasons.

A long time ago QEMU had a timer that ticked every millisecond and the
timers were not in nanosecond precision; rather they used
cpu_get_ticks() which was tied to the TSC.  This was changed in 2006,
and since then the number of ticks per second was changed to a constant
10^9.

Usage of "tick" to represent nanoseconds is definitely the exception.
It's much more common to have code like:

            now = qemu_clock_get_ns(QEMU_CLOCK_VIRTUAL);
            ...
                ticks = muldiv64(now, 32768, get_ticks_per_sec());

(hw/arm/omap1.c) that converts nanoseconds to 32768 Hz "ticks", and
using get_ticks_per_sec() is very confusing in the latter example.  You
would think that get_ticks_per_sec() is in the numerator (second
argument of muldiv64), not in the denominator!

Most of the time, get_ticks_per_sec()'s result end up being massaged in
some formula and passed to timer_mod which expects nanoseconds, such as

    timer_mod(fdctrl->result_timer,
              qemu_clock_get_ns(QEMU_CLOCK_VIRTUAL) +
              (get_ticks_per_sec() / 50));

where you have nanoseconds on the left of the plus sign and "ticks" on
the right.  NANOSECONDS_PER_SECOND makes it obvious that the timer will
expire in 1/50th of a second.

> If - for some reason - we want to replace a function with a MACRO, then
> please introduce TICKS_PER_SECOND which just feels better when reading the code.

This would be wrong, for the reason mentioned above.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-11 12:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-10 19:30 [PATCH] Replacing (and removing) get_ticks_per_sec() function with NANOSECONDS_PER_SECOND Signed-off-by: Rutuja Shah <rutu.shah.26@gmail.com> rutu.shah.26
2016-03-10 19:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " rutu.shah.26
2016-03-10 21:10 ` [Qemu-arm] " Eric Blake
2016-03-10 21:10   ` Eric Blake
2016-03-10 21:10   ` Eric Blake
2016-03-11  6:57   ` rutuja shah
2016-03-11  6:57     ` rutuja shah
2016-03-11  6:57     ` rutuja shah
2016-03-11 11:01 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-03-11 11:01   ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-03-11 11:01   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-03-11 11:44 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-03-11 11:44   ` [Qemu-devel] " Christian Borntraeger
2016-03-11 11:44   ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-03-11 12:07   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2016-03-11 12:07     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-11 12:12     ` [Qemu-arm] " Christian Borntraeger
2016-03-11 12:12       ` [Qemu-devel] " Christian Borntraeger
2016-03-11 12:12       ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-03-11 12:26       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-11 12:26         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-11 13:22         ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-03-11 13:22           ` [Qemu-devel] " Christian Borntraeger
2016-03-11 13:22           ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-03-12 16:20 ` [Qemu-arm] " rutuja shah
2016-03-12 16:20   ` [Qemu-devel] " rutuja shah
2016-03-12 16:20   ` rutuja shah
2016-03-15 10:08 ` [Qemu-ppc] " Laurent Vivier
2016-03-15 10:08   ` [Qemu-devel] " Laurent Vivier

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